President-elect Donald Trump on Friday confirmed that Republicans will work together to ditch Daylight Saving Time, the practice of changing the clocks by an hour twice a year.

    • Steve@communick.news
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      9 days ago

      That would be permanent Daylight Savings, not eliminating it.
      Though I’m not sure he or many others know the difference.

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        Half the people cheering the elimination of DST actually want permanent DST. Can’t wait for this to go through, morons will get what they asked for instead of what they wanted. Theyre going to spend the extra hour of sun asleep in their beds.

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          I don’t give a crap if the clocks stay forward or stay back, as long as they stay put.

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          As someone who mourns the 24hrs open world that covid killed, I don’t care what the sky looks like, I’m just sick of my circadian rhythm being thrown off every few months because some fuck couldn’t be bothered to use a lamp and decided it needed to be everyone else’s problem.

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            You realize the circadian rhythm of humans is massively influenced by the sun right? It’s not just not using lamps, the light of the sun literally activates hormones that tell you it’s time to get up and lack of sunlight makes hormones tell you it’s time to sleep.

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              Yes, I also understand that the sun rising and setting doesn’t stop me from going about my day. Daylight savings doesn’t take away the sun, it just let’s my boss demand I change what time I wake up by an hour.

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                So it’s not about your circadian rhythm anymore its about fighting it and doing your things no matter what the sun is doing? Most humans still need light to regulate their sleep, emotions, hair growth, and literal bone density. I’m glad your special but pretending like it’s just people who don’t want to use lamps is the worst comparison I think ive ever seen on the subject.

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      As you age time appears to pass faster.

      In your late 70s, six months flies by, so older people tend to hate daylight savings time, because they feel.like they’re constantly changing their clocks.

      It’s why Biden was such a bad president, the last four years flew by and he probably barely realized it.

      It’s why the entire time he kept saying “we need to figure out what’s going on first”.

      At that age you just can’t keep up with a normal day to day, let alone be the fucking president of America.

      trump obviously will (and has) had the same issue, it’s just when Trump doesn’t get his shit done, it’s almost always a positive for the country.

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        Not that I can tell yet, but i heard that the peak of time passing is around 45-50 years old. Also, things like this apply a lot more to people who do the same routines day in and day out. Someone like Trump probably sees it a bit less due to always having a different day most days. Although, at the same time, how many days did he golf or just vacation on his last term?

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          Whatever his reason, it’s gonna be stupid.

          But unironically, there’s a lot of good reasons to just go with one time or the other.

          So it’s weird to keep seeing headlines about it

          Media is desperate to get people to arguing over shit that doesn’t really matter along party lines.

          They’re still shitting their pants over 99% of the country uniting behind Luigi. They want us to talk about anything except the shit that effects billionaires negatively

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    trump finds loophole that by turning back the clock one hour, every hour, he can legally freeze the time and bypass term limits.

    I mean, if the time never legally reaches Jan 20, 2029, then he is still legally president

    taps head

    🤓

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    So states he can’t fix greedflation and moves to checks notes …eliminating daylight savings. Pretty fuckin low on the list…

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    Trump says lots of things.

    Who knows which he will actually try to do?

    Or how many of those things he will actually succeed at?

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    Some people want DST all year and others want Standard, because depending on where in the country you live–the latitude you are at, and whether you live at the east or west edge of your time zone makes a big difference in your experience of them.

    One solution is to adjust the time zone boundaries to make the timing work out better for different locations: making the lines a bit more diagonal will help, and/or add another zone so each zone is narrower and there’s not as much difference in sunrise/sunset times from one edge to the other.

    Another idea is, don’t choose between DST and Standard, choose halfway between them: at the next time change, change it by only 1/2 hour instead of a full hour, and leave it there. This may sound strange but there are other countries whose times are offset by 1/2 hour from the others, so it’s not that unusual. So you’re halfway between DST and Standard all year round, so it’s not a big difference and is a good compromise.

    Of course it’s always too dark in winter, but combine both of the above mitigations and you minimize any problems from leaving clocks the same all year, no matter what part of the country you live in.

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      A few states can move a time zone, but northern states really benefit from the change. Daylight varies a ton seasonally in the north compared to south, Panama City has about 10-14 hours, but Seattle has about 8.5-16 hours

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      Settling at half increments isn’t a bad idea in theory but it will be hell for international business because the average person is a moron.

      If you’re going to go this radical just abolish time zones and use UTC. Then locally decide what time is the start of standard business and what is not.

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    Fingers crossed that this gives us an extra hour of sunshine after work instead of before. It’s so depressing to leave the office at 4pm and it’s already dark out.

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      No.

      You make be spring forward and I’m owed my motherfucking fall back. I’ll take up arms to defend that stance.

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        Fall back is nice but we should just change the time whimsically instead.

        What if instead of one hour in the fall you randomly got 8?

        You could technically get 582 hours of overtime in one shift in some states depending on the change.

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        One link to a research article from 1974 about fuel usage. One link to an article about the change between time offset being a problem. No substantiation for other claims. This article is practically an editorial.

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        Eliminating vaccines is also bad for public health. Let’s not fool ourselves into thinking this is a component of the decision.

        That said, I’m also sus of that position. There are plenty of healthy societies that live much further north of the us population centers.

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    I’m for permanent daylight. Not a morning person so i hate the sun coming up so early. The mornings should be dark and gloomy (because I have to go to work, work sucks) plus the added benefit of actually having some light when you get off work. The sun going down right when I’m finally off is kind of insulting and depressing.

    Getting anyone to come to an agreement on this will be impossible since its based on preference.

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      That’s why you base it on science and will you look at that, regular time is better, who would have thought?

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      Aren’t they doing the opposite though, they are doing no light when you get off work?

      I’m definitely with you though, having it dark outside when I’m done work for the day sucks, even when working from home.

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    I support standard time more, the 12 o clock at the center of the timezone should be noon, not having noon at 1PM, and day lengths are better on average without. DST makes it better, but only for sunset times, it makes the mornings drastically worse and I think employers and schools should just change their hours if they care so much about sunlight when they leave.

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      I support daylight savings time more and all of those regions where the sun doesn’t rise before 7AM can switch time zones.

      For example, all of the USA switches to permanent daylight savings time, and the western portion of Texas that sees 0 days with a sunrise before 7 AM switches to the Mountain time zone. Now they will experience sunrise before 7 AM much more often.

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        Eh, I support places moving time zone but a bigger factor for me is also linguistic, it doesnt make sense for high noon at the place the time zone is defined at to be at 1 in the afternoon, the one thing I think alot of people can agree with is that 12 should be noon or as close as possible and I feel that DST works against this.