• explodicle@local106.com
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    11 months ago

    Price controls cause shortages. The solution is plain old taxes - take money away from the rich. Housing will be cheaper to buy up front when recurring taxes are higher. Your dollar will go farther when other dollars are removed from circulation.

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      11 months ago

      A 4% tax on millionaires in Massachussets got free lunch for school kids in the state

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        11 months ago

        Is this actually true or just post hoc ergo propter hoc?

        It seems like we shouldnt need a tax on millionaires just to pay for lunches. It’s more depressing than we weren’t paying for lunches more than it is inspiring that we are now.

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          11 months ago

          Just look it up. And we should need taxes for it, because that’s what taxes are (at least they should be) for.

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            11 months ago

            I think you misunderstood my question. I was genuinely asking if it was directly from this tax that the program was expanded. The articles I read on it said that this tax would help, as it’s allocated to public schools and transportation. But they also said part of it would be coming from federal grants.

            I am all for taxation, don’t get me wrong. But it’s a failure of our government that this took a millionaires tax to accomplish. And I don’t think this goes far enough in either the taxation or the allocation of funds for our school children.

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          11 months ago

          IMHO it’s not just to pay for lunches (or whatever else); the primary goal is to limit price inflation and housing speculation. The fact that it generates revenue is an added bonus.

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          11 months ago

          It’s more depressing than we weren’t paying for lunch

          Because billionaires lobbied congress to reduce budget for public schools

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      11 months ago

      We need more housing in general too, to be honest, and to stop people buying it and directly distribute the housing to families looking for a primary residence.

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        11 months ago

        Tax the shit out of the businesses that are holding onto these houses. Extra penalties for letting them sit empty. Special tax for companies with more than x% of purchasable inventory within certain regions. A lot of this could be fixed by taking money away from the people hoarding it.

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          11 months ago

          We need to tax holding property as an investment if you aren’t living there or using it for your business. I’m not sure if it’s already taxed as capital gains or not, but it sure as hell should be. There’s nothing wrong with property being an investment – you should think of your house as an investment – but there’s a significant problem in treating property like stocks.

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            The best way to reduce the viability of housing as an investment is to just build more housing.

            And no, you ideally should never think of your house as an investment, because that means housing prices are rising.

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          11 months ago

          There’s fairly few units that people are just letting sit unused and empty.

          In 2022, 23% of vacant for-rent units were vacant for less than a month. Only 26% were vacant for more than 6 months.

          There’s more vacant housing “held off market”, but keep in mind that includes housing occupied by people with usual residences elsewhere, housing that’s currently held up in legal proceedings, housing currently under construction or repair, or in need of repair. The amount that’s being held off market by Blackrock to keep prices high is tiny at best.

          Vacancy taxes have been tried, and their effect is generally fairly small. That’s not to say that they’re bad, just that they’re only a small part of a larger solution.