Hello, I’m sorry in advance if this is a noob question. I am new to Lemmy and the Fediverse.
As far as I understand, Lemmy is part of the Fediverse, but if I search for “Lemmy” here it will not find it. It seems to be full of instances from Mastodon.
Can someone help me understand why Lemmy isn’t there? Thank you!
There is no single website that presents the entire Fediverse. Here are some pages that give you a relatively broad overview: https://fediverse.party/en/miscellaneous/ https://fediverse.observer/ https://joinfediverse.wiki/Main_Page
Thank you for the list! I thought that the website I linked was the official Fediverse website since it was the first result that showed in the search results, but looks like it’s not the case.
There’s no official fediverse anything, the fediverse is an unorganized collection of:
- Applications that share a somewhat compatible protocol by which they transfer information (ActivityPub). Mastodon, Lemmy, Friendica are all examples of Fediverse applications that have varying abilities to interoperate with each other. These applications are often created by organized projects that have their own websites. Like there is a Mastodon project with an official website at https://joinmastodon.org/ and there is a Lemmy project with an official website at https://join-lemmy.org/.
- Instances of one of these applications that are fully compatible with other instances of the same application. So you can think of all the lemmy instances as a Lemmyverse where users on one Lemmy instance can talk to users on a different Lemmy instance through federation. Instances pretty much always have websites like mastodon.social and lemmy.ml.
- Individuals using accounts on those instances. User accounts often have a page on their instance, like mine is https://lemmy.world/u/PriorProject.
The fediverse itself, though, has no official website. It’s the emergent collection of all of the above. There are websites that use the word “fediverse” in their name, but those sites are ABOUT the fediverse, or they might be PART OF the fediverse… but no one site IS the fediverse or can represent it or be the official home of it. It similar to the internet. There happens to be a website at https://www.internet.com/. But it’s obviously not like… the internet… or the official website of the internet. There is no official website of the internet, that’s just a random website that happens to be ON the internet. The fediverse works the same way, it’s an abstract idea used to describe a loosely affiliated collection of things that try to interoperate with each other in a variety of complicated ways.
“and there is a Lemmy project with an official website at…”
You wrote the same URL twice ;)
The correct URL for the Lemmy project is: https://join-lemmy.org/
Be careful with first hits ;-) Seriously: there is no official website, only pages of individual projects, i.e. https://join-lemmy.org/instances. And the website you linked to is really an interesting source (which I didn’t know yet, thanks), but details are under “About”: https://www.fediverse.to/about/
So this one is good for know Mastodon :
https://mastodon.help/enBut there are plenty more, you can even make your own, if you feel like it. But apps are evolving, what connects them is the ActivityPub protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub
I’m on the Fediverse, but not on Lemmy.
And I am replying to you.
Welcome to the Fediverse!
ok, I do understand how different lemmy/kbin instances can communicate, but I always thought, that different applications (like Mastadon or some micro blogging stuff) has their own federated network.
they are all interconnected? Ooout of curiosity, how (with which other federated service) do you access Lemmy content on another service?
edit: someone down already posted this overview
https://axbom.com/fediverse/
I’m still not entirely sure how all is connected and works together.
i think, I have to read up. if anyone has some further links to read into, I’d be very happy :-)@naeap @reiver Hi … I’m on the fediverse too, but not on lemmy either! Welcome!
The simple answer to your question is that lemmy users (such as yourself) and lemmy communities (such as !fediverse@lemmy.ml) appear as similar kinds of things here. You look like a user here, so I can look at all of your lemmy posts etc by just clicking on your name.
And lemmy communities basically look just like users too, which I can follow, except they “boost” (like re-tweeting) everything posted in them.
Thank you! I find the Fediverse to be really interesting, but I’m still learning how to navigate it. So far everywhere I looked I’m only seeing Mastodon, I wonder how to find other instances that are not Mastodon related, do you have any tips?
I know a few Friendica users have replied to my posts here.
Do you mean other Lemmy instances, or other projects like Lemmy, Mastodon, etc?
This site lists a lot of the different projects, and you can click on them to see the different nodes available for that project: https://the-federation.info/
Thank you for the link! I meant projects like Lemmy and Mastodon
i think you’ll find this page informative: The many branches of the Fediverse
I think it’s just frigging amazing to see this.
I just created an account on a new Lemmy instance to try out the experience, and I’m actually excited, watching all these people communicate across all the Lemmy instances. It’s just like email, if email servers were self hosted by individuals.
not only that, you might see some people around who aren’t even on Lemmy! Lemmy is on the same network as Mastodon, Calckey, Pixelfed, Peertube, and several other social media platforms, so people can post and reply to Lemmy discussions no matter what they’re using
Yeah this is incredible actually. This technology could become very popular with just a few simple changes to signup flows and user interfaces, and I see what’s needed, but on the other hand, I actually don’t want too many people to join us.
It’s good with a bit of a barrier right now so we don’t have to deal with moderation issues caused by people who just want to cause conflicts.
@smartwater0897 @salarua I host a server running pleroma, which is a microblogging fediverse server similar to mastodon, and this thread got boosted by someone I follow and showed up on my instance just now. Posts in the fediverse spread out far from your home server across all kinds of different platforms, and it’s really cool to see in practice. Welcome!
There are heaps! Personally I feel Mastodon is the only one that could be considered in any way mature, but it’s just not something I can get into.
Lemmy has been great with all these new users (not so great prior), but it’s still pretty janky if we’re being honest.
I quite like Bookwyrm as well (a sort of fediverse Goodreads), and use it for tracking what I’m reading. But the federation of reviews doesn’t work quite how I (or they) would prefer. Plenty of content on the flagship instance bookwyrm.social, though I’m not sure how well it works trying to connect from other services. I just have a bookwyrm-specific account for that, though in theory you could use your lemmy account to connect I guess.
There’s also a facebook-like one called Friendica, but honesty until you can upload videos seamlessly I just can’t see it being used by the general public. You basically have to upload videos to youtube (or peertube) and link them. Because of a lack of users, most fediverse sites seem to assume posts will be public. I just can’t see friendica being adopted mainstream until I can upload videos of my kids for family to see without having to put them another site for the world to see.
@Mango7874 @fediverse I would assume that the owner of Lemmy might not have wanted it on there, as instance owners can manually request removal or inclusion on fediverse.to. Of course take this with a grain of salt, just my first assumption upon reading your post.
That website doesn’t seem to list a lot of Fediverse software.
Oh I see, I thought it was the official Fediverse website since it was the first showed in the search results.
Nothing is “official” on the Fediverse.
Because it is decentralized, no one controls it (and thus nothing can be “official”).
@Mango7874
Welcome! 😉
I found a Lemmy in the fediverse. It’s This one ?
@LemmyDevI’m a bit confused, I thought Lemmy is different from Mastodon as they are on 2 different internet domains and it has a different interface and website…
@Mango7874 Lemmy and Mastodon are different project but both speak the same protocol (the same “language”) so messages can be exchanged between both. Kinda like following a Twitter user using a Facebook account or a Youtube account, and still being able to like and comment. This is the magic trick of the Fediverse: multiple websites, multiple servers, different interfaces, but all using the same protocol (speaking the same language)
