• PinkPanther@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    There’s no such thing as “unskilled work”. I’d no skill was required, why do you need to gave training to do it? Cooking burgers at McDonald’s? You need to know how long the burgers are to be cooked on each side. Stop calling certain jobs “unskilled”.

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      6 months ago

      There’s a big difference between needing 6+ months of training and needing only a day or two of training.

      • azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
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        6 months ago

        Yeah, pretending there’s no distinction is just stupid. Even from a leftist theory perspective, MDs don’t face the same struggles or need the same regulatory oversight to protect their rights as burger flippers.

        Like, if they’re pissed at the term “unskilled” they’re welcome to propose an alternative but there’s obviously a meaningful difference.

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            Unskilled is a term bosses use to devalue a workers labor and value.

            What is your acceptable term to describe “a level of competence most human beings have that an employer can spend a only a few hours of training with that person that the person will attend a level of acumen they can perform the job function” ?

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                6 months ago

                “labor”

                We’re talking about a specific segment of labor. What is your word that indicates the position requires no special training or education that the employer cannot or will not provide?

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                    6 months ago

                    Exactly.

                    Stop trying to artificially divide ourselves into small groups that fight eachother.

                    Thats exactly what the C-Suites want.

                    They want us hating eachother and fighting eachother, so we cant unify against them for better pay and benefits for everyone.

                    Labor is labor. Some labor takes more training than others, but we’re all in this together as one. The fast food employee is not the enemy of the welder. The cleaning crew is not the enemy of the linemen. our only enemy is those who seek to divide us, under value us, and exploit us to fuel their own excess.

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        6 months ago

        minutes of training for things like making a burger at McD’s. You just follow the info graphic.

        It’s unskilled work, in that it requires no specialized skill.

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      6 months ago

      Stop calling certain jobs “unskilled”.

      Okay, how about “a level of competence most human beings have that an employer can spend a only a few hours of training with that person that the person will attend a level of acumen they can perform the job function.” Its kind of wordy, does that help?

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      Hahahahshsha

      So pressing the button on the timer built into the fryer, since the 70’s, is now skilled work?

      There’s lots of unskilled work out there. I’ve done lots of it. From digging ditches to fast food to loading trucks and delivering parts.

      None of those jobs require more than a few minutes of training, therefore “unskilled”. And fast food today is even more unskilled… Just follow the diagram in front of you. And you don’t make the burgers in fast food, they come in pre-made in boxes, usually frozen, and you load em up on the automatic cooking device (varies by company). I believe Wendy’s still grills their burgers, using a timer and a rotation methodology, so no skill rewuired.

      Hell, even being a line cook is unskilled, and that can be a really demanding job from a time management perspective (I’ve been a line cook).

      I’ve worked for the top 3 fast food places, a number of smaller restaurants, and a bunch of other jobs. I’ve had somewhere approaching 40 jobs in my life. Lots out there is unskilled.