• floofloof@lemmy.ca
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    21 days ago

    This is not someone killed in battle:

    Donald Trump raged when he learned the funeral bill for Vanessa Guillén—the U.S. soldier who was sexually harassed and horrifically murdered by a male soldier at Fort Hood in 2020—cost $60,000, a bombshell report revealed Tuesday.

    Somehow knowing the circumstances of her death makes Trump’s awful remark even nastier. Especially since he is a rapist.

    Guillén, a 20-year-old American of Mexican ancestry from Houston, was buried in her hometown on Aug. 15, 2020. Months later, in December, Trump reportedly asked his advisers in a meeting, “Did they bill us for the funeral? What did it cost?"

    When an aide responded “yes” with the bill’s total, Trump allegedly unraveled. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f—ing Mexican,” he said, according to people in the meeting who spoke to the Atlantic.

    Trump says vile things every day but this has to be one of the vilest.

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      21 days ago

      Damn, he was almost close to making a valid comment about how wildly overpriced funerals are today, then instead went full bore into super racism

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      21 days ago

      He followed through with the sentiment too.

      The magazine reported that Trump then turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and ordered him, “Don’t pay it!” That order was apparently heeded by Meadows, as the Atlantic reported that Trump never sent a dime to help cover funeral costs for the slain woman.

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        It’s absolutely vile to invite the mother to the white house, offer to pay, and then later rescind that offer.

        If he’d never offered it wouldn’t matter.

        This is just so so abhorrent, even for trump.

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          21 days ago

          Racism aside, if I offered someone to help pay for a funeral, I’d choke in my coffee too if I the bill said $60.000 .

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            20 days ago

            Yes, but you wouldn’t:

            • offer to pay
            • without any stipulations
            • while on TV
            • while in the white house
            • as a person that brags about their wealth
            • for a funeral
            • of a military person
            • in a high profile murder

            Any idiot could see that the funeral was going to get out of hand.

            If Trump said he’d by me lunch it’d be the most expensive lunch in history.

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              If someone offers to pay your lunch, or in this case for the funeral of your murdered child, trying to make it ‘the most expensive in history’ to fully abuse that offer just makes you a Sad. person imo. Imagine having it done to you.

              To reiterate: It’d make me happy Donnie almost dies in a fire but is kept in a conscious coma for hundreds of years

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                20 days ago

                Well, I don’t care at all if you think I’m sad, but you may have missed your point.

                If my neighbour offered to buy me lunch I would politely insist on contributing in my own way. I don’t really want people to buy things for me. That said, I dislike Trump immensely, he brags about his wealth, and if he offered to pay for something for me because the optics look good, I would absolutely abuse that offer. If it were for my daughters funeral presumably that would occupy my thoughts and I wouldn’t politicise it by using my daughters funeral as a way to steal from trump, but there would be no fucks given about the cost.

                My point is, “someone” offering to buy me lunch is not at all the same as Trump offering to buy me lunch while interviewing me on TV in the whitehouse because it makes him look good.

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                  Sure, I can understand trying to find ways to ‘get’ Trump, but seeing something that is still somewhat of an act of generosity as an opportunity to scam someone…

                  Anyway a) he was probably never going to pay this out of his own personal pocket and b) this just resulted in this family to have to pay for their absurdly lavish funeral themselves

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              20 days ago

              Sure, and all disrespect for trump but say I’m rich and crash my car into your fence and tell you “it’s fine just send me the bill”, there’s a difference when that bill turns out to be 60k

              Sounds a bit like the family chose the 'Royale" because of his promise

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      21 days ago

      But he definitely doesn’t think the same way about the people voting for him…

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      20 days ago

      “This is not someone killed in battle”

      That sentence does not prepare you for the rest… Not that it would excuse Trump at all if they died “normally”. And I would say she definitely died in battle, just not in a war, her battle with the SA and everything is just as valid as anything else. I’d change that sentence if I were you.

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    Trump was reportedly still irked by the bill later that same day, with him claiming that Guillén’s grieving family was trying to take advantage of his wealth.

    “Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “F—ing people, trying to rip me off.”

    So this is rather telling, him thinking that the “money of the US government” is “my money”

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    20 days ago

    How the hell is he winning so much of the Black and Hispanic vote? Like… any percentage at all?

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      Hispanics have a very high population of religious voters and many of them don’t believe in abortion. For many religious people, even if they disagree handily with everything else the Republican party does, they will not vote Democrat because of the abortion issue.

      There was a pretty large research study and a bunch of podcasts on it.

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        20 days ago

        This! My guess is that being religious and conservative is at least 75% of the reason why Hispanics would support Trump. My father was a Colombian born immigrant who in my memory always supported the Republican party and the majority of the years after he got his citizenship I’m certain he never voted Democrat. He did come around though before passing in 2023 and I’m pretty sure he did not support or vote for Trump. >

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        See, at this point… I’m either convinced Harris has pretty much got this in the bag and the media is lying to get people to doomscroll because money, or there’s a Copium Leak and when it’s fixed I’ll see that Trump is coming to kill us all.

        The former feels weirdly more valid…

        Still VOTE, I ALREADY HAVE! MY STATE HAS EARLY VOTING, FIND OUT IF YOURS DOES TOO!

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          You probably have confirmation bias based on your environment. I own a contracting company and many in the trades drink the koolaid, and are completely blind that they are voting themselves poor over the long term.

          Some people can only learn through pain - they can’t express empathy past what they personally experience - and those people tend to be squarely trump voters. They’ll vote for bacon every day as pigs, and only realize their mistake afterwards.

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          I desperately want to believe that about the media, but Tim Miller and the folks at Pod Save America (whom I trust to be brutally honest) are also constantly talking about how close the race is. I’m so fucking depressed about this shit. We are this close to having a literal fascist as President.

          This fucking son of a bitch had to ask John Kelly who the good guys were in WWI.

          FUCK.

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            Nate Silver’s said he’s already calling it for Trump, which doesn’t feel good to know, because the last time he said that Trump won.

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                17 days ago

                I was hoping for that, but then I realized swing states legalized marriage voting, where the man can decide the woman’s vote and go into the booth with her to ensure it.

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      A higher percent of the Hispanic support than any republican nominee in history (as high as 45%) with closest next being George W. Bush.

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    Just one more thing that should absolutely torpedo any political career, that won’t hurt him at all. His MAGAt cultists probably think that was “speaking the truth” or some stupid shit like that. Anyone who would be bothered by his comments has abandoned him ages ago.