While I’m not interested in encouraging /r/selfhosted users to leave reddit, I thought it would be good to have some discussion around the possibilities for a selfhosted community on lemmy.
It looks as though most users are washing up in !selfhosted@lemmy.ml, but this is but a temporary refuge in these troubled times. The single mod is not responsive, lemmy.ml is already struggling with load, and the background lemmy.ml community may not be right for us. If we set up shop here we’re just going to have to move, probably sooner rather than later.
So if we move, do we create our own instance or move to an existing one better aligned with our needs?
Given that there don’t seem to be any instances which are really ideal, the remaining advantages to choosing an existing instance is simply that we rely on someone else’s infrastructure (and the associated time, skill, and responsibility). This is a significant advantage which makes this option tough to pass up, but the equally significant disadvantage is that we don’t get our own place. It’s like renting a room in a frat house rather than building our own mansion.
The remaining option is to create our own instance. If we were to go this route, in my opinion it is critically important that the responsibility for this be shared amongst several people. This dramatically reduces the odds that someone loses interest, or lacks the resources to support the community long term. While I’m certain that everyone in this sub could spin up an instance, we all know that providing high availability to potentially thousands of users is not something to be undertaken on a whim. There’s a significant risk to the community in allowing someone to take this on themselves.
I think fosstodon (mastodon) with several admins is a good model of how something like this can work. I also think it would be a good idea to broaden the subject to FOSS rather than merely self hosting.
So the questions are…
Do you think we should create & support a community on an existing instance, or create our own instance?
If an existing instance then which one?
If a new instance then how would you like to see it operated?
So looking at Mastodon as an example, everyone went on the main site and it wreaked havoc for a while, especially as the sites increased in size.
Might make sense to find a smaller site or roll our own.
It’s “self-hosted” after all, I would suspect our use-cases and skill-set are probably better served running our own. Or setting up a topic at one of the smaller-tech focused sites.
That’s the suggestion.
Problem is there doesn’t seem to be much interest from anyone with experience hosting something for thousands of users.
Something I’m wishing for, is for a lemmy community to have multiple home servers.
I’m still learning how lemmy works and only just set up an instance yesterday, but it feels weird that a community is still sort of centralized. I’d like to see something where !selfhost@lemmy.ml could be the exact same thing as !selfhost@eviltoast.org. E.g. something like how multiple IRC server can be combined to create a larger network or how Matrix has room aliases.
To a user, it shouldn’t matter which server they’re on as long as the communities are linked to each other.
Yeah, obviously it would be difficult to keep everything in sync without a single source of truth.
As it is now, the server you’re connected to is doing all the work. I think the existing model can be modified to reduce the current points of confusion.
Like not being able to see communities on other servers in search is a problem.
I think this is in the work.
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/818
I’ve seen that this issue had been discussed quite a lot recently.
I can transfer this community to whoever wants it, seeing as how the current mod is MIA.
That sounds like the right move if you’re happy to do it.
I would be happy be a mod at least in the short term, but willing to hand over to someone else later on if someone appropriate emerges.
Also @casey@lemmy.wiuf.net are you still interested ?
Mmmk it’s yours.
You don’t need to move ftom lemmy.ml. You’re a group of self hosted gurus, so this is your chance to actually self host. Don’t hide behind excuses that lemmy.ml won’t be able to handle things. Just do what you do best and host your own instance. Sounds bloody fantastic to me!
This is your time to shine!
