• polle@feddit.deOP
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      emacs

      I actually don’t know what emacs means. I only remember having struggles in understanding anyone who likes vim, because it mostly just confused me. But Probably its just what you are used to. The Meme is still funny, though.

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        For my vim journey it was the draw of being able to quickly navigate and manipulate text without ever needing my hands to move away from the home row on the keyboard, and being willing to put in the time and effort to push past the learning curve.

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        Don’t discount the possibility that some people that use vim, are old enough to remember using vi, over a modem connection. When you know the keyboard shortcuts it can be a lot quicker too even now.

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          Vi is incredibly snappy when it came to commands.

          Want to save? :w

          Want to quit? :q

          Want to save and quit? :wq

          Very elegant. GUI WYSIWYG doesn’t come close when it comes to commands.

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            Man, this comment made me feel a little embarrassed at myself. I saw the shortcuts and thought about how I have a tradition of going to the top of the file when I’m done editing and about to save/quit. I always hit the shortcut for it and think “gg boys! Good game” and then quit out of vim.

            Stop judging me.

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        vim is a little hard to get into, but from there its benefits pay off with lots of features. On the other hand there is emacs, with an even steeper learning curve (*cough* long inconvenient button combos!), but it’s considered so powerful, some say it’s a separate operating system.

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        It comes from the words “Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping”.

        Yeah, the name hasn’t aged well…

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          It’s about 80MB on my machine right now… What is an absurd amount of memory for an empty editor, but I had to sort top by process name because there are some 10 pages of stuff that reserve no memory at all, 2 where it goes from non-zero to 100MB, and a fucking lot of pages of stuff using more than 100MB.

          WTF is my computer doing with all that?

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            Just keeping a single frame buffer image can take tens of megabytes nowadays, so 100MB isn’t all that much. Also 64-bit can easily double the memory consumption, given how pointer-happy the ELISP data structures can be (this is somewhat based on my assumptions, I don’t actually know the memory layouts of the different Emacs data structures ;)).

            But I don’t truly know, though. If I start a terminal-only Emacs without any additional lisp code it takes “only” 59232 kilobytes of resident memory. Still more than I’d expect. I’d expect something like 2 MB. But I’ll survive.

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    My entire first year as a network student was a Bernie meme: “i am once again asking, how do i exit vim?”

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    Whewf I’m boutta out myself or something, but …

    after 15 years of vim, writing (and contributing to) a host of plugins, even running custom builds with my own patches …

    I basically never boot up Actual Vim anymore?? I’ve basically entirely switched to VScode + VSCodeVim. embarrassing as fuck, in some ways, but jesus christ it’s just too goddamn good.

    The neovim integration, even, was fantastic. (Although I don’t use it right now, for “VSCode Remote reasons,” lol.)

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      I’m thinking of switching from VSC to VIM because VSC is too hungry for ressources.

      I avoid to open some monorepo projects because it takes too much time and I use the Github explorer to navigate in the project.

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        What on earth size of monorepo is that!? iirc, we’ve got ~1Mloc of OCaml, probably another two or three times that in assorted generated code, specs, config, infra, and other languages; and my VScode-Remote definitely boots up as fast as the network connection can stand up.

        Definitely faster than I can think of the first thing I want to do … ¯_(ツ)_/¯

        That said, I should own up to having had an absurdly overcomplicated vim config, tons of plugins, a decade n change of customizations and patches and shit. Maybe I’ve just always had a high tolerance for a slow boot. hahaha

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          It’s a monorepo for around 30 micro frontend projects (Vue.js / Angular / Svelte mostly) + some libraries packages.

          I don’t know what is the number of LoC but it’s medium sized frontend projects (we are ~100 developpers on this projects)

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    vim is so last year. have you people heard of GitHub’s new ‘Atom’ IDE? I think it’ll be the next big thing 😊

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      An IDE written in Electron?? What a terrible idea! Nobody would ever be stupid enough to let something like that take off…

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    I went to a Data and AI conference and in one of the breakout sessions, there was a guy literally taking notes in Vim.

    Absolute madness!