• fedfedfedd@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Anyone here thinks 5G is overhyped? 4G in my country has the same speed as 5G in China. Seems dumb to upgrade to an inferior product.

    Most people here dont even care about 5G when they reach 150mbps on 4G.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      The actual value of 5G is in facilitating autonomous robotics and industrial automation as opposed to stuff like mobile phones. It’s high bandwidth and low latency which allows

      The rubric “smart cities” encompasses a complex of 5G-enabled technologies that will drastically reduce freight and package delivery times, passenger waiting time, labor costs and energy utilization. With high-speed 5G available at almost all of China’s major urban centers now, China already has introduced autonomous vehicles for urban personal transport. Most Chinese cities are new with main thoroughfares that can easily accommodate autonomous vehicles. The low latency (very rapid response time) of 5G allows autonomous vehicles to communicate with each other almost instantly, a critical safety feature. Following this, China has begun to control urban traffic flow with central computers that match passengers and packages to vehicles, including drones.

      Moreover, in terms of commercial efficiency, China has made operational fully automated warehouses, pioneered by the Chinese Internet retailers Alibaba and JD.com. It has integrated urban hubs with suburban spokes through high-speed trains. And it Used the Internet of Things (IoT) and “smart” solar panels to reduce the energy cost of heating and cooling buildings.

      According to Chinese industry sources, 5,000 private industrial 5G networks already are in place in China, with another 50,000 expected to be completed in the next year.9 These include the automated ports in Shanghai’s Yangshan Container Port, the world’s largest, as well as industrial robotics, autonomous vehicles, and other applications. Comparable networks in the US and Europe for the most part are experimental rather than operational. The Trump Administration’s sanctions against sale of components including semiconductors made with U.S. equipment or intellectual property appeared to have slowed China’s 5G rollout only slightly.

      https://dc.claremont.org/how-america-can-lose-the-fourth-industrial-revolution/

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        1 year ago

        The actual value of 5G is in facilitating autonomous robotics and industrial automation as opposed to stuff like mobile phones. It’s high bandwidth and low latency which allows

        But the article is about phones?

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      150mbps isn’t close to 5g Speed Cap, though I’m not familiar with the speeds in China. When I was in the phone industry, 5G phones could typically pull upwards of 300mbps on a regular basis. Idk why you need that speed on a mobile phone, but it is possible, and very useful for non phone wireless use.

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      The reason you think that is because you’ve never been to China. No city’s average 5G speeds is as low as 150MB.

      https://www.statista.com/statistics/1290784/china-5g-download-speed-by-province/#:~:text=As of the first quarter,5G infrastructure development progressed rapidly.

      The problem is you’re using YOUR countries poor excuse for 5G as a reason to say it’s inferior.

      https://www.lightreading.com/asia/how-real-is-chinas-5g-gap/d/d-id/775634

      Maybe if your country didn’t ban Huawei, the creators of 5G you wouldn’t think it’s an inferior product.

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        Maybe if your country didn’t ban Huawei, the creators of 5G you wouldn’t think it’s an inferior product

        What does a ban on a company has to do with 5G towers? Other companies cant make 5G towers?

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          Maybe try reading the articles I posted. In the second one, Eric Schmit from Google explains the problem. Essentially Huawei’s 5G covers more spectrums than western ones. So you’ll never get the full performance from western 5G making people like you think 5G is inferior when it’s really the poor implementation.

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            The article doesn’t state that at all actually. It just says, according to SpeedTest, China has deployed more of the spectrum already where as the US is only rolling out mid-band frequencies (as of 15 months ago). It says nothing about China having special frequencies not available to the US, nor does it (incorrectly) state that Huawei invented 5G.

            You’re probably not familiar with the landscape of the US, but much of the country is rural which is why we have more users per tower since it isn’t financially advantageous for companies to roll out new towers where few people can use them.

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              … you don’t understand at all. I am not going to be able to explain it to you. There are no special spectrums. US equipment can only do mid band where as Huawei can also do high and low. That’s the problem. There’s no magic that you seem to think there is.

              *Edit. Also this has nothing to do with how many towers there are. The towers near the airports were always there. Yet they interfered because USA can only do mid band. Had they been able to do low band there wouldn’t have been issues.

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      1 year ago

      Turns out your phone isn’t the only device that connects to the network. Crazy, I know.