• msherburn33@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Tell Hamas to surrender and release the hostages and this whole thing would be over tomorrow.

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        4 months ago

        Well they’ll either be dead or forced out, so technically it won’t be apartheid or occupation any more.

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      4 months ago

      Do you genuinely believe that?

      Hamas certainly deserves condemnation and are terrorists.

      But IDF members are posting drone executions of unarmed children on social media themselves.

      The IDF are just as complicit as Hamas in harm to civilians. The evidence is irrefutable.

      Terrorist like Hamas attack and capture civilians, claim credit and post to social media. The IDF are doing the same thing.

      If Hamas surrendered today I have no belief that the IDF will stop.

      We’ve seen frequently that over decades the IDF have killed Palestinians protesting peacefully, killed press present at protests, killing medics.

      Now they’re taking the opportunity to attack civilians in hospital, civilians queuing for aid, killing civilians with drones. Displacing and starving a whole population.

      These are war crimes.

      The individual soldiers are now criminals it doesn’t matter whether they follow orders or not. That precedent is already set at the Hague.

      The question is, if they’ve been following orders, how far up the ranks in the IDF are the war criminals?

      Assuming orders are being given and followed, what is the motivation for the orders?

      It looks like the definition for genocide is being met. An organised force, starving a population and culture, displacing a population and culture, removing and displacing orphaned children from that country.

      If you think Hamas are the cause of all of this I’ve got bad news for you. They’re only an excuse, the IDF has been waiting to do these things for a long time.

      The only question is how high the intent to do this has actually come from.