EV’s are bad for the American OPEC monopoly
American OPEC monopoly
What the hell does that even mean? The USA aren’t even part of the OPEC1, how are they supposed to be in the “OPEC monopoly”? Or do you mean Venezuela with America? And why monopoly? OPEC/ OPEC+ are only responsible for 30-40%2 of crude production, that is a weird monopoly.
1 https://www.opec.org/opec_web/en/about_us/25.htm
The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) was founded in Baghdad, Iraq, with the signing of an agreement in September 1960 by five countries namely Islamic Republic of Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. They were to become the Founder Members of the Organization.
These countries were later joined by Qatar (1961), Indonesia (1962), Libya (1962), the United Arab Emirates (1967), Algeria (1969), Nigeria (1971), Ecuador (1973), Gabon (1975), Angola (2007), Equatorial Guinea (2017) and Congo (2018).
2 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61188579
…Together, Opec+ countries produce about 40% of all the world’s crude oil.
America controls Saudi, Kuwait, Iraq and Venezuela. Only Iran falls outside and if they start doing naughty things they are going to get invaded.
America is the largest oil producer in the entire world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production
Country Oil production September 2023 (bbl/day)
United States 12,900,000[8]
Russia 9,480,000[9]
Saudi Arabia (OPEC) 9,060,000[9]
Canada 4,778,973[10]
America is the largest oil producer in the entire world
So, still no monopoly. Even IF we counted OPEC as “American OPEC monopoly” they together would only account for 50-60% of crude oil production. Far away from a monopoly, maybe you should read up on the term monopoly.
America controls …
And even then, OPEC most of the time acts against US interests. Crazy how big the “control” and influence the US has over these countries and OPEC then. They have so much control that even Russia is part of OPEC+ since 2016. AMERICA STRONK!
Ah, yes. America with its magic wand controlling everything and everyone! Just yesterday evening Biden made me snort three lines of coke.
Yes they kill governments that try to nationalize their oil which could drive down prices. Gadaffi in Libya is a great recent example.
Well, they do tend to catch fire or explode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOA7qKMcjcE
Or just left to rot in order to sound as if they are being used en masse. But do not believe me, believe your eyes.
EVs are a security threat, but meddling in foreign wars and aiding genocide isn’t.
Biden Calls Chinese Electric Vehicles a Threat to American Shareholders. FTFY.
5G, garlic, cars…
I know this may seem like an unusual concept to capitalist America, but having more competitors drives down prices.
Low prices aren’t always a good thing. Especially for the working class when those low prices are on imported goods that replace the products these workers used to make. I thought we already learned that neoliberal policies aren’t so hot for workers.
No one has learned anything. The people who knew outsourcing was anti-worker were proven correct, but it didn’t matter.
Part of the problem with the EV market in the US right now is that the majority of models available are luxury cars in price. You can get a used Nissan leaf for ~16k, but issue with that is their driving range can be anywhere between 80-100 miles (works great for errands and daily commuting). Not even gonna mention the headache of figuring out the charging port type(seems NACS format is winning the market).
I have long maintained China is a security threat, but I am excited for the news because it will (hopefully!) push US auto makers to make more affordable models with 200+ mile range.
Do American next.
This is something that bothers me. I see EVs as future and a next step in car evolution, but why all of them have to be connected? Why most people don’t have problem with it? I’m not talking about Chinese cars, but all of them.
20 years ago if you would say a car could be hacked one would laugh and say that this only happens in sci-fi movies, now this is a reality. And that’s not the only threat, there’s a huge implication with privacy. Why people are so not caring about it?
I think it’s simply that there’s not much we can do about it
So true, it’s either buy a car which steals all of your data or don’t buy a car at all. Which isn’t really a choice for most of us
How many people use smart devices? On the door, tv, Alexia? People “want” to be hacked.
They don’t “all” have to be connected, the vast majority of available global models aren’t (IE a lot of the affordable Indian/Chinese models).
The vast majority of models sold in the USA are IE Tesla. More affordable models like the Renault Zoe afaik aren’t but I’m not sure how accessible these are in the USA. I’m not sure about the Chevvy Volt tbh… Consumers can purchase to buy a non-connected vehicle.
Out of the EVs I have I mostly use the one that is connected so I can do automations to turn on climate control etc. Connectivity is a convenience/safety thing for me and I assume others…
The people that do care the most have a choice to use older cars and that reduces resistance now.
Because it is easy.
That is it. It is easy and cheap to make cars connected because of abysmal lack of regulation and the massive IoT chip industry
Integrating wireless radios into products is standard by now and chips required to do anything but 5g are extremely cheap. GPS is also dirt cheap. The biggest costs by far are design hours and certification.
Then they can make money because of the software “features” that only take man hours to develop as well as sell your tracking days after the fact. Together with the fact that if the market says that most people want those convenience features and couldn’t care less about their valuable data as we have seen through every tech industry, there is little reason NOT to put in those features, especially when it enables OTA car firmware updates also.
Yeah fair I am sure there is almost as much sketchy shit in Chinese electric cars as American ones, I just can’t find the fucks to care compared to the threat of ecological and agricultural collapse from climate change.
Like seriously I know it’s more satisfying and intriguing to talk security, technology, software and geopolitics but really who gives a fuck. Literally none of this even remotely matters next to the existential emergency that is climate change.
So sure, cheap Chinese electric cars lets go who cares honestly, we don’t have the damn time to focus on making this into a Cold War Tom Clancy novel before we run out of shit like clean water to drink.
If you care about climate change, then you would be anti-car period. Biden is 100% correct here (but not for the reasons he thinks,) cars are a security threat.
and if you were a true Scotsman you would be wearing a kilt and not those PANTS
Tesla is also a security risk like all others
You see, Teslas are controllable by CIA while Chinese cars are not
You jest but I still trust them more than the CCP.
What do you imagine China is going to do to you from the other side of the world? Feed you targeted ads? Attack you with Havana Syndrome or turn you into a Manchurian Candidate via 5G?
Do things that benefit China and only China at the expense of North America.
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The thing that benefits China and only China is good for the rest of the world?
I disagree but ok
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Nah, I wouldn’t trust them either.
I think people are misunderstanding my comment. I don’t trust either, but I’m worried about one more than the other given national interests and where I live.
You live in China?
This pure projection. America spies through everything they sell. So they assume that everyone else is doing the same.
Will the solution be public transportation infrastructure so cars aren’t needed?
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
President Biden took steps on Thursday toward blocking internet-connected Chinese cars and trucks from entry to the American auto market, including electric vehicles, saying they posed risks to national security because their operating systems could send sensitive information to Beijing.
China has rapidly scaled up its production of electric vehicles in recent years, setting it on a collision course with Mr. Biden’s industrial policy efforts that seek to help American automakers dominate that market at home and abroad.
Administration officials are eyeing other steps to further impede imports of Chinese vehicles, which have already surged through European markets, as a result of low prices driven in part by significantly lower labor costs.
The Treasury Department has already proposed rules meant to limit China’s ability to supply materials for cars and trucks that qualify for a $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit included in Mr. Biden’s signature climate bill.
The Commerce Department investigation announced on Thursday grew from a series of conversations that administration officials had with automakers last fall, after the settlement of a United Automobile Workers strike during which Mr. Biden stood with the union and joined a picket line.
Biden aides began to grow concerned about what might happen if the United States did not impose similar restrictions on Chinese software, which administration officials say only a handful of cars in America run on today.
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Industry competition: a threat
Deteriorating mental condition of leadership:
not a threatwhat was I talking about again?
