Far-right Israeli government minister Ben-Gvir believes that Israeli soldiers must shoot Palestinian women and children in Gaza to stop ‘another October 7’.
Far-right Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir demanded the army shoot Palestinian women and children in Gaza during a cabinet meeting, according to the Israeli media on Monday.
“We cannot have women and children getting close to the border… anyone who gets near must get a bullet [in the head],” Ben-Gvir said during a debate with Israeli military chief Herzi Halevi on the army’s “open-fire” rules at the cabinet meeting on Sunday.
Ben-Gvir, who heads the extreme right Jewish Power party, told Halevi that Israel’s rules of engagement in Gaza were too lenient and ought to be broadened out to encompass civilians.
“You know how our enemies operate… they will try us,” Ben-Gvir said according to The Jerusalem Post.
“They will send women and children as undercover terrorists. If we continue like this, we will reach another October 7.”
Halevi did not argue with Ben-Gvir over the ethics of shooting Palestinian women and children, but rather claimed that it might lead to more “friendly fire” incidents.
read more: https://www.newarab.com/news/ben-gvir-says-israeli-army-can-shoot-women-children-gaza
But if you make a suggestion about him - just one guy! - that’s beyond the line.
Ok ok let me try this hack…
Let’s vote to change the law to kill just this one guy.
Dunno if that’s an actionable threat. I do have access to a ballot.
Maybe suggest “deporting” him, to any country of his choosing, except the ones on Earth. Peacefully! It’s fine if we specifically “peacefully.” Bastards like him always talk about kindly, gently, legally putting people on a boat and shoving it into the dark and roiling sea.
Death to Israel
So they get the go-ahead to explicitly do what they’ve already been doing for months/years?
the extreme right Jewish Power party
Not even trying to be subtle with the ethnonationalism
Israelis literally use leftist as a pejorative
You’re not supposed to say the quiet part out loud.
It’s “the death of a euphemism”. It’s served its purpose and now the Overton window has moved.
Oh we know they can. We’ve been watching them succeed for months now.
Not much evidence to suggest that they’re shooting anybody but women and children in Gaza.
Don’t be ridiculous, they’ve shot a bunch of men - escaped hostages, their own troops, and, like, probably at least 1 Hamas through sheer probability.
can’t argue with that
“Can”
Morally reprehensible. I don’t care who you are or what happened to you, if you unapologetically and purposefully retaliate against the most innocent and vulnerable, then you are the bad guy.
Two wrongs don’t make a right. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Stand for those who can’t stand up for themselves. Speak out before there’s no one left to speak. Never forget. Pick whichever goddamn platitude you want, but mean it.
Okay so if this is true then it’s a clear incitement to war crimes.
Israel continuing to let these kinds of speech happen is a part of what makes this a genocide.
Genocidaires are sometimes brought to trial many years after they think they have gotten away with it.
I honestly think there is so much evidence now that if the US ever loosens its stranglehold on the world this will happen with the Israeli genocidaires.
War crimes as a designation only mean something if you catch the criminals, which generally means a complete collapse of their sovereign state. In the case of a nuclear weapon possessing nation, that’s not gonna end well. Most western governments are still very much willing to do business with Israel because they represent a friendly foothold in the Middle East. Everyone, literally everyone, is well aware they are committing genocide.
The Nazis were able to be tried for war crimes because the world utterly destroyed Nazi Germany. Milosovic was able to be tried for war crimes because Yugoslavia was a failed state and he lost the war. Again, no nukes.
@dangblingus I agree with most of what you have said. Exceptions are things like Comrade Duch who was eventually prosecuted despite the history there.
But I’m pointing out that the world has an especially long memory when it comes to genocides. There are always survivors and their sympathisers who will prosecute if they get the chance. And in this case there is plenty of evidence.
Personally I don’t think the current orthodoxy will hold for another 50 years - perhaps not even 30. US hegemony is slipping and becoming more reliant on hard power. As for Israel, it’s an arms dealer and a tech exporter. But I’ve noticed companies in my part of the world have no trouble doing business with countries like UAE and Saudi Arabia.
Sanction Ben-Gvir
What caliber of sanction are we talking here
If it weren’t for the embedded racism in our society, we’d treat Israel-Palestine the same way the West has treated every other ethnic conflict. But, many Jews are white, so…
(I’m still unclear on what the instance rules around this are, by the way)
Look at them fighting the good fight against sexism and ageism.
/s
Well, clearly they can: Apparently they’re pretty good at it.
Doesn’t make it morally OK though…
And America just gave them 14 billion to continue with this slaughter.
Why can’t this hold up in ICC/ICJ?
Probably solely because of the case being initiated by South Africa has made “the situation complicated”.
So “complicated” in fact that South Africa has even confronted the panel over their hesitancy to hold Shitrael accountable, to which they haven’t even recieved any sort of response apart from silence.
I wish all members of the SAJBD a very Qassam rocket
We’ll see how the Feb 26 report goes. I can’t imagine how Israel will possibly argue that they’ve improved humanitarian aid access and protection for civilians.
But they’ve not done any of that
