I’m not an egg anymore, but I found this meme I made several years ago when looking through an old hard drive and wanted to put it on Lemmy.

Image description: Top text says “Me: 100% totally cis male.” Bottom text says “Also me: A girl with girl stuff and girl hair and girl clothes.” The bottom part is actually an image of a Minecraft skin that is posted on Planet Minecraft.

  • First Majestic Comet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneMEnglish
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    9 months ago

    I think what they mean is that trying to argue that a person playing a girl character makes them a girl, regardless of their identity is the part they don’t agree with. I agree with them on that (if that is the case) I do not believe that actions by a person can make one semantically trans, I believe (as do most decent people) that the way a person identifies is what determines gender identity, and trying to go against that is hurtful and invalidating.

    I acknowledge that this meme is a person calling themselves out, but it sets a chilling precedent for invalidating Gender Non-conforming people, who almost certainly will do things like this that step way outside of gender stereotypes, yet they still fully identify as male. It invalidates them because it’s in a sense saying that their actions make the way they identify invalid, that’s what saying someone is trans in-denial does, it invalidates their current identity based on their actions.

    • Lumelore (She/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
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      9 months ago

      It’s just a meme I made like 3 or 4 years ago because I saw a skin on pmc with a funny name. I really didn’t put that much effort into it. This has a CW for assuming the viewer is transfem because I am transfem and it’s from my perspective when I was an egg. Also I don’t think this meme at all invalidates gender non-conforming people who identify as male. Just because it was intended for a different audience, it doesn’t mean they don’t exist or are invalid. Would making a meme like this targeting gender non-conforming people who identify as male invalidate trans women?

      I think what they mean is that trying to argue that a person playing a girl character makes them a girl, regardless of their identity is the part they don’t agree with.

      I agree with your statement, playing as a girl character is not what makes you irl a girl. However, this meme isn’t about the character you play as. It’s about the amusing title that the Minecraft skin has, and it’s not a skin I made, so I didn’t choose the title.

      It invalidates them because it’s in a sense saying that their actions make the way they identify invalid, that’s what saying someone is trans in-denial does, it invalidates their current identity based on their actions

      You do realize that is egg_irl, right? This whole community is about being trans in-denial.

      and also kinda reinforces gender stereotypes

      I feel like this meme does the exact opposite. Top text essentially says “On the surface I’m a guy” and bottom text essentially says “but actually I’m a girl”. At least to me that doesn’t seem cisnormative.

      • First Majestic Comet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM
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        9 months ago

        I agree with your statement, playing as a girl character is not what makes you irl a girl. However, this meme isn’t about the character you play as. It’s about the amusing title that the Minecraft skin has, and it’s not a skin I made, so I didn’t choose the title.

        Ah Sorry for the misunderstanding, I thought it was about a person being a girl because they like to play as one. Which obviously isn’t right. A person is a girl because they identify as one. I also wasn’t aware that you didn’t make the skin, that is kind of funny.

        You do realize that is egg_irl, right? This whole community is about being trans in-denial.

        Yeah, I was misunderstanding the meme as saying that a person who does X (X being playing as a girl) is automatically trans-in-denial by the action, rather than admitting to having been in-denial in the past. I say this meaning that a person shouldn’t be told that they are in-denial because ultimately people need to come out when they are ready and you can’t always tell if someone is or isn’t, basically Egg Prime directive.

        I feel like this meme does the exact opposite. Top text essentially says “On the surface I’m a guy” and bottom text essentially says “but actually I’m a girl”. At least to me that doesn’t seem cisnormative.

        Again operating under the idea that the incorrect idea that the meme was about how people breaking gender stereotypes are that gender they’re presenting as. Cisnormative was probably not the right word. I’m stupid and not always good with words.

        Sorry for misunderstanding.