The United States and Britain launched dozens of military strikes on Yemen on Thursday, raising fears of an escalation of conflict in the region. The strikes, launched in response to Houthi attacks on ships in the Red Sea that have disrupted global trade, left at least five people dead. The Houthi movement began targeting ships in November “essentially using a naval blockade in the Red Sea to prevent the blockade against civilians in Gaza,” according to our guest, Yemeni American scholar Shireen Al-Adeimi. “This is an offensive act. This is a breach of Yemeni sovereignty,” she says about the U.S. coalition’s strikes, which were launched without approval from Congress, and which Al-Adeimi additionally characterizes as “a defense of capitalism.”
Israel: bombs and invades Palestine
Palestine fighting back is wrong.
Yemen: bombs ships serving Israel
America fighting back is... right?
I feel bad for American voters. The last time military action was taken without congressional approval it led to a 20 year war resulting in a million dead Iraqis and the Taliban government back in power in Afghanistan (among other completely preventable atrocities, like this).
The hypnotism of American exceptionalism is requiring an almost lethal dose of ignorance to continue to work.
Saree also identified the first vessel as the Unity Explorer, which is owned by a British firm that includes Dan David Ungar, who lives in Israel, as one of its officers. The Number 9 is linked to Bernhard Schulte Shipmanagement. Managers for the two vessels could not be immediately reached for comment.
Israeli media identified Ungar as being the son of Israeli shipping billionaire Abraham “Rami” Ungar.
However, ownership details in public shipping databases associated the ship’s owners with Ray Car Carriers, which was founded by Abraham “Rami” Ungar, who is known as one of the richest men in Israel.
Just from a quick search. Where did you get your info from? Or did you think that all Barbados flagged ships are owned by people that live full time in Barbados?
So the ships aren’t linked to Israel but companies that own the ships have Israeli citizens somewhere in their higher structure? Or are in some nebulous and unspecified way linked to Israeli citizens? Like neither of those sources even tried to claim the ships even did business in Israel.
What’s next? Shaking hands with a Israeli will get you attacked by pirates?
Instead of using all the logical fallacies you do to avoid learning something that violates your bias, just be intellectualy honest and say “I believe Israel is above the law and they need to be protected at all costs. No other lives are as valuable as Israeli lives” cuz bruh, Yemen attacking a ship owned by the firm of Israel’s richest person is a long shot from
What’s next? Shaking hands with a Israeli will get you attacked by pirates?
and you know this. Quit playing yourself. Who are you fighting for, anyway?
If you read your own source that ship wasn’t owned by that Israeli guy, it’s affiliated with him somehow according to the houthies but I can’t find any connection to the guy when looking around online.
The first source just straight up said it wasn’t an Israeli ship but a British one but one officer was Israeli.
I’m not sure what fallacies you are talking about but I think Israel should absolutely be sanctioned and pressured however possible to stop their genocide. The houthies are only doing piracy on random ship and doing nothing to stop Israel, just using the distraction to justify piracy.
The “shaking hands with an Israeli” thing is called reductio ad absurdum.
I totally agree that Israel should get the same level on sanctions as Russia did after invading Ukraine.
What I think you and a lot of other commenters are unaware of is how convoluted ship ownership is, for tax avoidance purposes. It seems like many people assume that Israeli ships are the ones with Israeli flags and for some reason Bahamas people have a shit ton of ships, probably because there’s a lot of water around there, right? This ignorance fuels the acceptance of the narrative that Houthis are rebel scum or pirates that are so dumb they keep attacking the wrong ships, but the truth actually speaks to their sophistication and intent.
Plus so many Israelis are dual citizens, like Dan David Ungar from the article I linked, who is also a British citizen and lives in Israel and is the son of the richest man is Israel, so saying “owned by a British citizen” is not untrue but it is a disingenuous service to the truth.
Who is arguing that Israel fighting back is wrong? Almost everyone recognizes that Israel has the right to self defense, but most people who think that also believes their response is at least disproportionate.
Who is arguing that Israel fighting back is wrong?
Most of the world thinks that. They would also take issue with you characterizing what Israel is doing as “fighting back” and “self defense”. Self-defense is when you steal land, ethnically cleanse the inhabitants, force them into a small area, then besiege them there for decades, and then blow the whole place up. You know, because some of them dared take up arms and broke out. Self-defense.
What a wild distortion of history here. You seem to be completely ignoring the many times the Arab Nations have attacked Israel, and lost. You’re also ignoring the land Israel has returned when peace agreements have been made or their various attempts to negotiate peace based on the borders established when the mandate was lifted.
I guess the fact that numerous neighbors of theirs have spent decades calling for the death of Jews and acting on it doesn’t really mean much in the grand scheme of things when it comes to a country defending itself…
You also seem to have overlooked the nearly 1 million Jews who had their homes stolen and were forced out of their countries of residents in the 40s and 50s when they were told to go to Israel where they belong. Let’s not let history or facts get in the way of a good oppressor narrative.
Yemen hasn’t bombed any commerce vessels. They did launch a few missiles and drones in the vicinity of US military vessels that were interfering with their enforcement, although they didn’t hit anything.
Yemen did reportedly hit aircraft during the first bombing run. In the event those produced any casualties, their air defenses will have drawn more blood in one night than 2 months of their maritime patrols (1 > 0).
Israel: bombs and invades Palestine
Palestine fighting back is wrong.Yemen: bombs ships serving Israel
America fighting back is... right?I feel bad for American voters. The last time military action was taken without congressional approval it led to a 20 year war resulting in a million dead Iraqis and the Taliban government back in power in Afghanistan (among other completely preventable atrocities, like this).
The hypnotism of American exceptionalism is requiring an almost lethal dose of ignorance to continue to work.
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Only ships that are zionist-owned and/or bound for Israel are targeted, Russian and Chinese ships for example are going through normally.
No, they have gotten 2 Russian ships so far and zero Israeli ones.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/u-s-navy-destroyer-and-multiple-commercial-ships-attacked-in-the-red-sea-pentagon-says
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/yemens-houthi-rebels-hijack-israeli-linked-ship-in-the-red-sea-take-crew-hostage
Just from a quick search. Where did you get your info from? Or did you think that all Barbados flagged ships are owned by people that live full time in Barbados?
So the ships aren’t linked to Israel but companies that own the ships have Israeli citizens somewhere in their higher structure? Or are in some nebulous and unspecified way linked to Israeli citizens? Like neither of those sources even tried to claim the ships even did business in Israel.
What’s next? Shaking hands with a Israeli will get you attacked by pirates?
Instead of using all the logical fallacies you do to avoid learning something that violates your bias, just be intellectualy honest and say “I believe Israel is above the law and they need to be protected at all costs. No other lives are as valuable as Israeli lives” cuz bruh, Yemen attacking a ship owned by the firm of Israel’s richest person is a long shot from
and you know this. Quit playing yourself. Who are you fighting for, anyway?
If you read your own source that ship wasn’t owned by that Israeli guy, it’s affiliated with him somehow according to the houthies but I can’t find any connection to the guy when looking around online.
The first source just straight up said it wasn’t an Israeli ship but a British one but one officer was Israeli.
I’m not sure what fallacies you are talking about but I think Israel should absolutely be sanctioned and pressured however possible to stop their genocide. The houthies are only doing piracy on random ship and doing nothing to stop Israel, just using the distraction to justify piracy.
The “shaking hands with an Israeli” thing is called reductio ad absurdum.
I totally agree that Israel should get the same level on sanctions as Russia did after invading Ukraine.
What I think you and a lot of other commenters are unaware of is how convoluted ship ownership is, for tax avoidance purposes. It seems like many people assume that Israeli ships are the ones with Israeli flags and for some reason Bahamas people have a shit ton of ships, probably because there’s a lot of water around there, right? This ignorance fuels the acceptance of the narrative that Houthis are rebel scum or pirates that are so dumb they keep attacking the wrong ships, but the truth actually speaks to their sophistication and intent.
Plus so many Israelis are dual citizens, like Dan David Ungar from the article I linked, who is also a British citizen and lives in Israel and is the son of the richest man is Israel, so saying “owned by a British citizen” is not untrue but it is a disingenuous service to the truth.
Let’s not fall for the narrative.
Hahaha omfg Palestine invades Israel read history bro
If you’re going to make a low-effort comment asking someone to read, at least make an effort to cite something for them to read.
Who is arguing that Israel fighting back is wrong? Almost everyone recognizes that Israel has the right to self defense, but most people who think that also believes their response is at least disproportionate.
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Holy shit you’re actually arguing that rampaging over a border and killing civilians at random is not attacking someone.
Ya sound as dumb as the people trying to argue that Israel has the right to do what they are doing right now.
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Most of the world thinks that. They would also take issue with you characterizing what Israel is doing as “fighting back” and “self defense”. Self-defense is when you steal land, ethnically cleanse the inhabitants, force them into a small area, then besiege them there for decades, and then blow the whole place up. You know, because some of them dared take up arms and broke out. Self-defense.
Literally in the next sentence I make it obvious I don’t believe this is the case. And this is upvoted. Amazing how irrational people can be.
What a wild distortion of history here. You seem to be completely ignoring the many times the Arab Nations have attacked Israel, and lost. You’re also ignoring the land Israel has returned when peace agreements have been made or their various attempts to negotiate peace based on the borders established when the mandate was lifted.
I guess the fact that numerous neighbors of theirs have spent decades calling for the death of Jews and acting on it doesn’t really mean much in the grand scheme of things when it comes to a country defending itself…
You also seem to have overlooked the nearly 1 million Jews who had their homes stolen and were forced out of their countries of residents in the 40s and 50s when they were told to go to Israel where they belong. Let’s not let history or facts get in the way of a good oppressor narrative.
Yemen hasn’t gotten a single Israeli ship so far…
Yemen hasn’t bombed any commerce vessels. They did launch a few missiles and drones in the vicinity of US military vessels that were interfering with their enforcement, although they didn’t hit anything.
Yemen did reportedly hit aircraft during the first bombing run. In the event those produced any casualties, their air defenses will have drawn more blood in one night than 2 months of their maritime patrols (1 > 0).
Two USN sailors reportedly went “missing” off the coast of Somalia (which, coincidentally, is also off the coast of Yemen).