• EatATaco@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    Who is arguing that Israel fighting back is wrong? Almost everyone recognizes that Israel has the right to self defense, but most people who think that also believes their response is at least disproportionate.

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      8 months ago

      Who is arguing that Israel fighting back is wrong?

      Most of the world thinks that. They would also take issue with you characterizing what Israel is doing as “fighting back” and “self defense”. Self-defense is when you steal land, ethnically cleanse the inhabitants, force them into a small area, then besiege them there for decades, and then blow the whole place up. You know, because some of them dared take up arms and broke out. Self-defense.

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        8 months ago

        would also take issue with you characterizing what Israel is doing as “fighting back” and “self defense”.

        Literally in the next sentence I make it obvious I don’t believe this is the case. And this is upvoted. Amazing how irrational people can be.

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        8 months ago

        What a wild distortion of history here. You seem to be completely ignoring the many times the Arab Nations have attacked Israel, and lost. You’re also ignoring the land Israel has returned when peace agreements have been made or their various attempts to negotiate peace based on the borders established when the mandate was lifted.

        I guess the fact that numerous neighbors of theirs have spent decades calling for the death of Jews and acting on it doesn’t really mean much in the grand scheme of things when it comes to a country defending itself…

        You also seem to have overlooked the nearly 1 million Jews who had their homes stolen and were forced out of their countries of residents in the 40s and 50s when they were told to go to Israel where they belong. Let’s not let history or facts get in the way of a good oppressor narrative.

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        8 months ago

        Holy shit you’re actually arguing that rampaging over a border and killing civilians at random is not attacking someone.

        Ya sound as dumb as the people trying to argue that Israel has the right to do what they are doing right now.