Totally expect to see a sea of “Nazi Sympathizer” comments, but look. I don’t think we should be Doxxing anyone so that we don’t invite folks to Doxx us.

I don’t think this is radical, but apparently this opinion is somehow tantamount to being an actual Nazi in that thread.

I don’t wish to remain in a community that says that Doxxing is bad unless we disagree with the victim - and I think that the post’s continued existence communicates this. Sure, it’s a federated post and not from our community, but honestly, I think it should be removed from Beehaw. I’ve already removed it from my tucson.social instance since I’m in no mood to deal with retaliatory doxxing.

Post link - https://beehaw.org/post/10286519

To be clear, the Moderators have been removing the worst offending comments since the article itself doesn’t actually Dox anyone, but navigating to the source thread on lemmy.ml provides easy access to ALL the doxxed information. As such, I think the whole post should be removed and/or locked.

Update: Post has been removed - I have no further issues. As an aside - good lord Beehaw - I get it I’m a Nazi apparently. I’ll get out of your hair and delete my account later this evening. Sheesh.

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        Based on user action and discussion, it pretty well seemed like this instance and a few others were built for the express purpose, or at minimum carved out and set aside space for the express purpose, of corralling and targeting harassment campaigns.

        Which included, but was not limited to, doxxing the targets.

        And literally here in this thread, multiple users with bigger than the thread average upvotes, are defending both the specific instance of doxxing as well as the concept in general.

        Its pretty clear from this post right here that the instance is a pro doxx instance. What about my comment was wild?

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          My thoughts on the topic of this thread aside, you claim we have built a reputation for this. I would ask that you provide other examples of this. I have been fairly active on beehaw for quite a few months now and have not seen this behavior. You may say I am biased as I am a mod on the platform, but I do truly think beehaw does its best to uphold its ethos. And what you claim the “point of beehaw” is, is directly antithetical to our ethos.

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            Sure, read this thread. Op accused of being a secret nazi plant, multiple people defending doxxing, screenshots of your discord doing the same, someone calling me a troll for having this understanding of this instance while actively defending doxxing in the comments calling me a liar and troll for saying this is a pro doxx space, and me, an outsider, being surprised that this wasnt a common understanding within your community.

            I think thats a fairly good sample size, no? You guys wrote most of this thread.

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              You made the claim that this place has developed a “reputation”, which implies it being among other people than just you, here, now.

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                Are you asking me to make a post in another instance, asking for people to come here and vouch for me? Because thats entirely inappropriate.

                And I cant exactly search lemmy in any successful way to find likely months old comment chains. Even if the search function wasnt borked, I dont memorize every post title and convo chain Ive read per instance.

                Thats an insanely unreasonable ask, especially given the direct proof of pro doxx mentality this post already shows.

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                  I didn’t ask for any of that.

                  Do you often find that when you encounter simple statements, you then spin them into wild and far-reaching demands in your mind, that somehow also just happen to reinforce the fear you already expressed feeling?

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                    Didnt you? What other proof would you be asking for?

                    And what fear? Are you responding to the right comment?

                    E: unless youre playing the “technically, I didnt ask the question, I just responded directly supporting it” but if thats your game you know thats nonsense

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              This thread that you just now found, yet Beehaw has a history of this?

              K.

              Edit: I was scrolling all and came across another thread, and happened to respond to them. Forgive me for participating on the Internet.

              Too late for them to see this. Oh well.

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                The thread a different person made, bringing up a concerning trend they dont like seeing here?

                That was in the All tab, like every other post made on lemmy?

                What point do you even think youre making?

                E: nvm stalker, blocked

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        The thread is full of people defending doxxing. Calling me a troll while the thing Im talking about is going on around you in real time is a bold attempt at gaslighting.

        And there is now people accusing op of being a nazi for making this post. You sure Im the troll here bud?

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          A handful of comments on a thread where people say that the doxxing of specifically nazis is a valid self defense tactic against nazism, is not the same as the “point of beehaw” - which is full of news, recipes, gaming and music discussions, chatter, all kinds if things - being about doxxing people. And i think you know that.

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            Or, your community has earned a reputation that it is actively proving to have earned in this thread, and you respond to any criticism with claims that any detractors must be trolls.

            Meanwhile, op is being implied to be a neo nazi plant for making such a clear and valid point your admins needed to respond and remove a post for it.

            You are even literally defending doxxing, right now, as valid.

            Im not a troll, youre just failing to gaslight.