• Gork@lemm.ee
    1621·
    1 year ago

    I remember being endlessly entertained by the rotating cube animation between workspaces in the old Beryl implementation.

    I told my wife, “but does your Windows do this?” Followed by rotating the cube. She was like, “I don’t care.” And that was that.

    I shall tell this story to my grandkids.

    • simple@lemm.ee
      110·
      1 year ago

      “but does your Windows do this?” Followed by rotating the cube. She was like, “I don’t care.”

      Wow, that sums up my Linux life pretty well actually

      • 30p87@feddit.de
        27·
        1 year ago

        Does your Windows do this? *doesn’t crash*

        But seriously, yesterday I cloned my main partition to a new laptop into an LVM volume on LUKS. Because I did not have any way of putting the new NVMe and old SATA SSD into one machine, I just used netcat over an ad hoc network.

        nc -l 10000 > /dev/main/root

        on the new Laptop and

        cat /dev/sda3 | nc 10.31.69.1 10000 -q 0

        on the old one. Worked perfectly. Now do that on Windows with builtin tools in live boots.

        • andrew@lemmy.stuart.funEnglish
          8·
          1 year ago

          Next time you could even add gzip or some other compression and save yourself a bit of time and bandwidth.

          • 30p87@feddit.de
            3·
            1 year ago

            The rate was around 100MB/s. So I think the bottleneck was probably the read/write speeds of the SSDs, considering I have ~900Mbit/s down from speedtest.net, and this setup removed every hop except the old and new Laptops Gigabit Lan Port and the Gigabit patch cable between them. But with larger files/partitions over the internet this would probably help

        • crispy_kilt@feddit.de
          4·
          1 year ago

          Now do that on Windows with builtin tools in live boots

          More like do that in Windows with any tools. It doesn’t like being moved to different hardware one bit.

          • 30p87@feddit.de
            2·
            1 year ago

            I just noticed I did not fully expand the fs on the target machine after shrinking it on the source machine to be sure it fits. No problem, growing ext4 file systems with resize2fs (indirect dependency of linux and base) works on mounted fs’ too, the Kernel just needs to be newer than 2.6 (so since 2003).
            Took less than 1 second and works flawlessly, live. Conkys fs_free just jumped from 20 to 76. Still time to clear my caches.

          • 30p87@feddit.de
            2·
            1 year ago

            The only problems with my Arch install were

            • /etc/fstab, which I forgot about because I didn’t read the whole install article again
            • custom configs (notable conky) because i8k is not available and all interfaces changed
              • 30p87@feddit.de
                2·
                1 year ago

                I’d guess many distros would’ve had errors with preinstalled and configured helpers. Debugging them would be a pain

                Gentoo, LFS, Arch etc. are installed manually, so one typically knows their system very well, including packages and configs they might have to hard configure interfaces etc. in

        • simple@lemm.eeEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          Last time I tried to mess with Windows partition I tried to expand it to merge free space in my C:\ drive, but I couldn’t do that because Windows put the recovery partition in the middle, with no permission to remove it. Had to jump through a million hoops to get Windows to remove it.

          I mean sure, Windows is easier in many ways. Not partition management. Anything but that. What a pain.

          • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
            3·
            1 year ago

            Ran into that a few years ago. I think I ended up fixing it by booting linux off a flash drive and moving the partitions around in that. It wasn’t to difficult after I just gave up trying to do it in Windows. Such a stupid problem.

          • Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz
            2·
            1 year ago

            I think I see a theme here. Doing fun normie stuff on iOS/ipadOS is easy. Doing technical stuff is usually completely impossible.

            Doing technical stuff on Linux is easy as long as you know what you’re doing. Doing popular normie things on Linux is a bit hit-or-miss. Some things work perfectly, but other things are a royal pita.

            Windows seems to be in between the two extremes in more than one regard. Microsoft seems to be working to find some sort of compromise in these things.

    • rudyharrelson@kbin.social
      30·
      1 year ago

      I think I accomplished a similar effect on my first linux distro a long time ago with a program called “compiz” (iirc). “I’m so frickin 1337,” I whispered under my breath. Nobody cared except me, though, lol.

  • KISSmyOS@lemmy.world
    231·
    1 year ago

    I hate moving windows around.
    All windows open maximized without window decorations. Meta+WSAD moves the active window to the upper/lower/left/right half of the screen.
    Meta+PgDown minimizes, Meta+PgUp maximizes. Meta+Q tiles windows horizontally, Meta+E vertically. Meta+X closes the window, Meta+Spacebar shows the desktop, Meta alone shows the workspace overview.
    Fuck hunting for window borders, clicking and dragging. And fuck configuring all this in a text file.

    (I use OpenSUSE with KDE by the way)

      • KISSmyOS@lemmy.world
        72·
        1 year ago

        No. I need the functionality of a full desktop environment.
        And KDE’s workspace overview is awesome. One keypress and I see all open windows, all workspaces and a global search field that switches to a program when it already has an open window and opens a new window if not.
        And a tiling WM on top of KDE would be pointless to me since the behavior of a tiling WM can be configured through the GUI in KDE without installing anything extra.

          • KISSmyOS@lemmy.world
            3·
            1 year ago

            I’m not familiar with sway or hyprland, but KDE automatically finds and configures any modern scanner and printer in the network, makes all programs use the same theme, saves my passwords and certificates, auto-mounts attached drives, auto-starts programs and services, handles which program opens which file type, has a nice workspace overview, lets me configure the firewall, grub, bootsplash screen, VPN, network settings, monitors, keyboard layout, etc… all with sane defaults out of the box, localized to my language, and easy GUI configuration.

            • Hexarei@programming.dev
              4·
              1 year ago

              For what it’s worth, a large number of the things you listed are actually portable into Sway, i3wm, and a lot of other tiling wms just by way of running the KDE settings daemons - I do the same kinds of things (network printer, theming, auto-mount, auto-start, XDG config, firewall, vpn, network settings, monitors, keyboard layout) just by having i3wm start up xfce-settings-daemon.

              I’m not familiar enough with KDE to make promises about grub and splash, but I would imagine those would also work exactly the same as well. In fact, a little bit of searching and it looks like if you’re on Wayland you could even just replace KWin (the KDE window manager) with Sway in the startup files and be 95% of the way there. Might just need to configure a system bar or something to that effect.

        • WorseDoughnut 🍩@lemdro.idEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          Yeah I also use KDE on my desktop, though I have my laptop running QTile because the tile hotkeys are much more convinient than navigating with the trackpad.

            • WorseDoughnut 🍩@lemdro.idEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              Sure, but that’s not the only benefit to having full control over the entire tiling interface. I enjoy building out the features and visuals I want in python. It’s fun to have that level of control.

    • GustavoM@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      Amen. I’d install Hyperland on both of my “main” PC and on my Rpi 4 but my rpi 4 (still) has sway and it “just werks” so eeeeeh

    • li10@feddit.ukEnglish
      52·
      1 year ago

      Hyprland is better if you’re on Nvidia as well.

      Mainly because if you ask for help with Sway on Nvidia then people basically tell you to fuck off and call you a cunt.

      For real tho, they’ll actually chastise you just for asking a question.

    • Squiddles@kbin.social
      3·
      1 year ago

      A couple days ago I tried Hyprland just to see what it was like. I’ve been on XFCE for over a decade and expected to play with Hyprland for a couple hours, go “Huh, that’s cool”, and uninstall it, but I think the switch may be permanent. It’s fantastic

        • dai@lemmy.world
          2·
          1 year ago

          Works fine on my laptop (1650 hybrid) and desktop (3070 no iGPU)

          Under NixOS on both machines, no xwayland.

            programs.hyprland = {
    enable = true;
    enableNvidiaPatches = true;
  };

          Is the basics to get it up and running under NixOS + HomeManager

          • flashgnash@lemm.ee
            2·
            1 year ago

            I’ve done that already though haven’t disabled xwayland didn’t realise that would work without being compatibility

            • dai@lemmy.world
              21·
              1 year ago

              Just don’t run X applications 😅

              I’ve seen no issues on my setup, might just be luck of the draw? What hyprland build are you running? What issues are you seeing?

  • Eevoltic@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    12·
    1 year ago

    I just got into wayfire after using Hyprland and nobody prepared me for the cylinder. I will open windows and wait for the screensaver just to see the rotating cylinder. So much better than the cube

  • Lober@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    111·
    1 year ago

    Sway has become a joy to use over time as I’ve fucked with my config but now I feel like it’s more boring too I barely ever feel the need or want to massively change anything 🥲

    • lemcat@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 year ago

      Same, I got “bored” so I tried hyprland for a bit on another machine, but when I realised I’d rather have the animations turned off, and was trying to make the config the same as my Sway one, I realised all I needed was Sway. Swaylove4eva

    • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
      1·
      1 year ago

      you can always use a login manager to manage different WM sessions. When i get bored of sway i switch to hyprland, i use different bars for each one too. Its bloat but its fun.

  • TootSweet@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    1 year ago

    I’m with you. One day I was like “I wonder if Wayland’s mature enough to use as my daily driver now” and installed Sway on a Raspberry Pi. I used DWM before, but now Sway’s my default.

    The only issue I still have is that I wish Zoom and ffmpeg supported the wlroots-specific screen capture methods. Those are the only things lacking that are keeping me on i3/X11 on the machine I use for work.

  • bar1@lemm.ee
    6·
    1 year ago

    Fedora Sericea is my current daily driver. Loving it so far. I’ve used Sway, River, and Hyprland on Arch, Fedora, and NixOS. The combination of an immutable system augmented by flatpaks and distrobox are supporting my goal to never wipe the drive again.

    Sway is more stable and lightweight for me than Hyprland. I don’t use Nvidia hardware at all. The lead Dev on Hyprland is a treasure though. 10/10 for that human being.

    • festus@lemmy.caEnglish
      10·
      1 year ago

      Both i3 and sway are very lightweight so you do get good performance, but it’s the easy tiling / no-nonsense looks that appeal to me.

      • cybersandwich@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        You know. I was just thinking my window management hasn’t been as performant as I’d like. I really need my windows to move a bit faster.

  • bananaw@sh.itjust.works
    3·
    1 year ago

    Just switched last night!!!

    So far it’s been great, but I need a way to migrate over my keybindings from xmodmap. I tried searching but everywhere I go gives a different answer. Can anyone help guide me in a direction? I’m primarily looking to remap caps to escape/control on hold. Would be great to remap some unused keys on my laptops keyboard to media keys as well. Thanks!!

  • rem26_art@kbin.social
    3·
    1 year ago

    been playing around with sway on my laptop and it’s been pretty fun. Tiling window managers are fun!