• Drama_durch_Lama@feddit.de
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    11 months ago

    So to get this straight: An advocate for the democratic movement against the religious fascist regime in Iran, who was officially declared a terrorist by the iranian regime, was (almost successfully) assassinated and the people in this thread do not condemn or even celebrate it, because he was an elected far right politician almost ten years ago.

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      @Drama_durch_Lama @gigachad yep pretty much. Just because you dont agree with someone’s politics doesnt mean its oke to cheer them being shot in the face. The only time thats oke is during a war.

      I’m not to familiar with spanish politics so I will refrain from commenting on it. In my home country far right politicians from 10 years ago would be normal rightwing today, policy wise that is. We had a far-right politician here who got shot and murdered 20 years ago. Today he’d be far left.

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    Jesus Christ political violence is not a good road to go down on. Hopefully things won’t escalate

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    11 months ago

    Violence against elected officials is not compatible with democracy. To those cheering at this act of violence: you are as violent and authoritarian as the people you loathe. Shame on you.

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      He is not a currently elected official. He hasn’t been in office since 2014. He isn’t even running for any office. He is retired and “active” as a lobbyist for the ‘National Council of Resistance of Iran’ and ‘European Friends of Israel’.

      While no motive has been established, I doubt it’s related to spanish politics since he is basically irrelevant there. If the attempt was politically motivated, it’s way more likely to be related to the current events in Israel and Gaza. Or his general stance on the current Iranian government. He is considered a terrorist by the Iranian government.

      So there is no threat to democacy and people cheering at this are just happy that a shitty person got hurt. Which still isn’t the best mentality.

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    I refuse to feel the same way about bad things happening to bigots as I would if they happened to better people.

    The insistence that anyone should is misguided at best and abusive at worst. It’s okay to have different opinions based on people’s words and actions. That’s not prejudice. It’s just regular judice.

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    11 months ago

    They are a little ahead of schedule if our goal is to revive last century’s events exactly 100 years afterwards, the civil was was from '36 to '39.

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      Jesus dude. I know right wingers can be absolute cunts but wishing death on them? Really?

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          There is a difference between not tolerating their shit and wishing people’s death.

          Edit: spelling

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          Violence is supposed to be the last resort to deal with them, I don’t see how this is in any way helpful, good or justified.

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              The last resort according to basic self preservation.

              The other side have guns too. What do you think they’re gonna do when you start killing their people?

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                  And sure, shoot at the fucker that’s a threat to you. That’s no justification to shoot at persons 2 and 3 that had similar belief systems but wasn’t shooting at you.

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                One side is gonna lose in the end. That is all that matters. The world is ruled with violence. Non-violence only is beneficial to those currently in power.

                Basic self-preservation as you put it requires violence. How are you going to preserve yourself when you let people run around who want to opress or kill you?

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                  One side is gonna lose in the end.

                  And there are plenty of times where this is done non violently.

                  Basic self-preservation as you put it requires violence.

                  Yes. As a last resort. That doesn’t mean never using violence. It means using it for self preservation, not just because you disagree with them.

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          Wishing him dead is fine in my book (since I don’t believe in magic anyhow) however encouraging assassination of political figures (as this may turn out to be) is not wise because in future it will be your guy who gets assassinated.

          It is in everyone’s interest to have peaceful elections to sort out our differences.

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            “our guys” are being assasinated every day, dying from tough working conditions, starving away on the streets, getting killed by police, dying in another pointless war to see which group of rich people get to exploit a certain corner of the earth, being led to suicide by homophobic and transphobic retoric spread by these people…

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          If you tolerate the intolerant, the tolerant society shifts to intolerant.