This is kind of sad because it didn’t used to be the case because Android was miles ahead of iOS back in the day, likely because its development was driven by a healthy mix of many OEMs and the FOSS community.
Now its just a java version of Google’s copy of iOS that just so happens to run on the linux kernel.
Honey, that’s still android. That’s like using Edge and saying you’re not using Chrome. Yeah, you are. It’s supporting google’s evil control over an industry by using code from AOSP. Still, you’ll get points in my book for being de-Googled as much as one can be while still using Android.
Haha jokes on you, I lied. I’m not using LineageOS. I’m posting from a Google Chrome web browser on my Chromebook running ChromeOS. I don’t even know what LineageOS is, I just Googled it. Maybe I’ll switch to it after watching a YouTube tutorial on it, but for now my phone is just a rock and a string that I stare at for 3 hours a day ☺️ because I refuse to use Android
Edge and Chrome are both closed source and owned by companies, so your comparison is just not valid.
Using AOSP is certainly not supporting Google’s monopoly: AOSP is totally open source, was bought by Google a long time ago and they don’t own it due to its license (aside from the name maybe). Meaning you can still flash Android on a system without paying or using Google’s services or products.
It’s like saying you contribute to Google’s monopoly because you use Linux and Google (also) used it in its Chromebooks.
Chromium is open source. Edge uses chromium. That’s how Google controls the direction of the internet. Chromium is evil and everything that uses it is supporting evil. Your comparisons are ridiculous. Linux doens’t need Android, lmfao. Tell me more about how you know very little.
As an iPhone user, it is true. There are things I like about iOS specifically that prompted my move from Android but overall stock Android is a better, more configurable, modern OS.
The big one is Apple’s new Advanced Data Protection. It’s very new, and it isn’t on by default, but that was a killer feature that brought me to Apple I don’t necessarily trust Apple any more than I’d trust Google, but the ability to E2E encrypt my cloud-backed data out of the box is something Google will likely never do.
But I bet most users will never even know that exists.
Google is really the only reason I won’t consider Android for anything. Time and time again they’ve proven themselves to be untrustworthy. Sure, Apple may collect your data, but their entire existence isn’t about selling that data to advertisers. I wish there were more options.
The last time I tried to use a degoogled phone it was basically impossible. Authy isnt on any other store, updating apps was a pita, notifications didn’t work half the time because too many damn apps rely on Google’s push notification system…
You may want to do some research. The first bit is uhhhh… plain incorrect. The chromium based things, sure, I guess that could be said despite it being an open source project and easily forked.
Lemmy loves google, but I’m with you. I don’t use any of their products or services. People here say, “why not just buy their product and use other software?”
That’s still buying their product. And their software still lies within the offshoots.
So your main reason is icon position. Not… like anything else. Alright then. Well you’ll be glad to know that’s possible on iOS now. Just… drag it around like… an icon.
Do iPhones even have a way to add multiple users yet? Last time I checked there was no option, but I haven’t bothered for a while, so did they finally add that?
Work profile: I can split my works stuff and personal very easily (and for security as personal apps cannot see or work with work stuff usually).
This also helps if you want to get same app installed multiple times. Ex. I could install pokemon go and use two profiles same time with split screen.
“true” secondary profile: like in desktop OS where you can create multiple profiles, this will “boot” phone to new profile and it has own partition and apps. Cannot interact with other “true” profiles.
I use that with my child if I hand phone to her. She cannot get to my stuff (not even images or other data) and only has her stuff available.
So do you have a work phone number? Do you have different contacts? Do you just have a bunch of duplicate contacts?
I’m really not seeing the benefit when you could just organize your work applications in a single area and use your notification settings to determine which contacts get what types of notifications when you are “work mode.” I assume android has that, since iOS certainly does.
I don’t have work number currently. And I very rarely call with my phone to coworkers.
when you could just organize your work applications in a single area
You could do that, but you would miss some of the features.
Ex. I use same browser on normal and work profile, but I have two icons (one for work, one for normal) to open browser. When I’m on my work profile, I’m logged in with my work Google account and it doesn’t interfere with my normal profile browser.
Same thing for Gmail, calendar, contacts, Google docs/sheets etc. And if I ever want to get rid of works stuff on my phone, I just delete work profile.
And for security reason when normal profile apps cannot interfere with work profile apps in any way. Ex. I can have one password manager on my work profile and another on normal profile and they cannot share information in any way and I can keep my work and private passwords separate.
And like I previously said, this works for entertainment use also, as I can have two instances of same app with different login information (like pokemon go)
And when Google added it, it became accidental ransomware, locking them out of their system?
I’m not sure how this is a good argument. “Yeah, well, that thing that Google just released that’s totally fucking broken, really badly. Does the iPhone even have the same thing?”
No, last I checked, the iPhone doesn’t have an option for multiple users that results in an a ransomware-like-outcome.
Multi profile users have been around for many years, they’re not new. Also the fanboyism in this comment is really weird, Apple isn’t going to pay you.
It’s 2023 and we’re still doing this? It’s pretty obvious neither is objectively better, stop being so loyal to companies and their products.
This is kind of sad because it didn’t used to be the case because Android was miles ahead of iOS back in the day, likely because its development was driven by a healthy mix of many OEMs and the FOSS community.
Now its just a java version of Google’s copy of iOS that just so happens to run on the linux kernel.
They keep each other entertained though, it’s fun watching brand lovers go at each other.
Corporate bootlickers are the worst. I don’t even find them funny just irritating and sad.
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I’m not a doctor, but I’d recommend therapy
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Yeah my like is missing. Where did it go lol
Like you and android? ;)
Nice assumption ;) no I don’t like Google either.
So you don’t use an android?
Nope I’m on LineageOS
Honey, that’s still android. That’s like using Edge and saying you’re not using Chrome. Yeah, you are. It’s supporting google’s evil control over an industry by using code from AOSP. Still, you’ll get points in my book for being de-Googled as much as one can be while still using Android.
Haha jokes on you, I lied. I’m not using LineageOS. I’m posting from a Google Chrome web browser on my Chromebook running ChromeOS. I don’t even know what LineageOS is, I just Googled it. Maybe I’ll switch to it after watching a YouTube tutorial on it, but for now my phone is just a rock and a string that I stare at for 3 hours a day ☺️ because I refuse to use Android
That sounds more accurate.
What brand is the rock?
Edge and Chrome are both closed source and owned by companies, so your comparison is just not valid. Using AOSP is certainly not supporting Google’s monopoly: AOSP is totally open source, was bought by Google a long time ago and they don’t own it due to its license (aside from the name maybe). Meaning you can still flash Android on a system without paying or using Google’s services or products.
It’s like saying you contribute to Google’s monopoly because you use Linux and Google (also) used it in its Chromebooks.
Chromium is open source. Edge uses chromium. That’s how Google controls the direction of the internet. Chromium is evil and everything that uses it is supporting evil. Your comparisons are ridiculous. Linux doens’t need Android, lmfao. Tell me more about how you know very little.
https://www.bitsight.com/blog/apple-vulnerabilities-cisa-known-exploited-vulnerabilities
iOS has its issues.
As an iPhone user, it is true. There are things I like about iOS specifically that prompted my move from Android but overall stock Android is a better, more configurable, modern OS.
What are the “things”
The big one is Apple’s new Advanced Data Protection. It’s very new, and it isn’t on by default, but that was a killer feature that brought me to Apple I don’t necessarily trust Apple any more than I’d trust Google, but the ability to E2E encrypt my cloud-backed data out of the box is something Google will likely never do.
But I bet most users will never even know that exists.
Google is really the only reason I won’t consider Android for anything. Time and time again they’ve proven themselves to be untrustworthy. Sure, Apple may collect your data, but their entire existence isn’t about selling that data to advertisers. I wish there were more options.
Have you heard of graphene OS? Because this decouples Google and you still have an android phone.
So… buy a google product and install other software on it? That’s still supporting google. I can understand why someone would not want to do that.
You can purchase a non Google phone and put graphene OS on it…
The last time I tried to use a degoogled phone it was basically impossible. Authy isnt on any other store, updating apps was a pita, notifications didn’t work half the time because too many damn apps rely on Google’s push notification system…
That’s still supporting Google and letting them dictate where technology goes. The same with using chrome, or anything chromium.
You may want to do some research. The first bit is uhhhh… plain incorrect. The chromium based things, sure, I guess that could be said despite it being an open source project and easily forked.
I’m gonna flip that around on you. Prove to me that LineageOS, an Android based operating system, no longer pulls in code from AOSP.
Lemmy loves google, but I’m with you. I don’t use any of their products or services. People here say, “why not just buy their product and use other software?”
That’s still buying their product. And their software still lies within the offshoots.
I dunno basic things I can do on my mbp like placing icons wherever I like lol.
So your main reason is icon position. Not… like anything else. Alright then. Well you’ll be glad to know that’s possible on iOS now. Just… drag it around like… an icon.
Do iPhones even have a way to add multiple users yet? Last time I checked there was no option, but I haven’t bothered for a while, so did they finally add that?
I’ve never considered multiple users on a phone to be a feature I’d ever use. Interesting concept I guess.
I personally got couple use cases.
Work profile: I can split my works stuff and personal very easily (and for security as personal apps cannot see or work with work stuff usually).
This also helps if you want to get same app installed multiple times. Ex. I could install pokemon go and use two profiles same time with split screen.
“true” secondary profile: like in desktop OS where you can create multiple profiles, this will “boot” phone to new profile and it has own partition and apps. Cannot interact with other “true” profiles.
I use that with my child if I hand phone to her. She cannot get to my stuff (not even images or other data) and only has her stuff available.
So do you have a work phone number? Do you have different contacts? Do you just have a bunch of duplicate contacts?
I’m really not seeing the benefit when you could just organize your work applications in a single area and use your notification settings to determine which contacts get what types of notifications when you are “work mode.” I assume android has that, since iOS certainly does.
I don’t have work number currently. And I very rarely call with my phone to coworkers.
You could do that, but you would miss some of the features. Ex. I use same browser on normal and work profile, but I have two icons (one for work, one for normal) to open browser. When I’m on my work profile, I’m logged in with my work Google account and it doesn’t interfere with my normal profile browser. Same thing for Gmail, calendar, contacts, Google docs/sheets etc. And if I ever want to get rid of works stuff on my phone, I just delete work profile.
And for security reason when normal profile apps cannot interfere with work profile apps in any way. Ex. I can have one password manager on my work profile and another on normal profile and they cannot share information in any way and I can keep my work and private passwords separate.
And like I previously said, this works for entertainment use also, as I can have two instances of same app with different login information (like pokemon go)
And when Google added it, it became accidental ransomware, locking them out of their system?
I’m not sure how this is a good argument. “Yeah, well, that thing that Google just released that’s totally fucking broken, really badly. Does the iPhone even have the same thing?”
No, last I checked, the iPhone doesn’t have an option for multiple users that results in an a ransomware-like-outcome.
Multi profile users have been around for many years, they’re not new. Also the fanboyism in this comment is really weird, Apple isn’t going to pay you.
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But the children yearn for the mines.
What phone doesn’t have child labor somewhere along the line? Fairphone? They use 3rd party chips for some things.
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No
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somebody hates being wrong