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Are all Palestinians Arabs?
The discussion is about the occupied territories
There are no “occupied territories.” The only land occupied by Israel is that which constitutes its sovereign territory.
Countries don’t “occupy” themselves.
You haven’t read anything that contradicts it.
You didn’t really answer any of my questions.
They were mostly nonsense. It actually doesn’t matter whether you can make the case that the British didn’t have the legal or moral authority to allow the Jews to create a state in the Mandate; they did, and it is now a nation of several million people, many born there and with no other citizenship whatsoever.
That’s simply a fact, just as borders are a fact. If you purport to reverse the creation of Israel, you’re advocating for a genocide many times worse than the Holocaust. You’re advocating for the pogrom to end all pogroms; a vast, multi-national effort to commit ethnic cleansing in the Levant.
can you please clarify which scenario you are pushing for
I’m not pushing for any “scenario” save Israel’s military victory in Gaza - a victory that ends with every member of Hamas dead or in custody (and then dead by execution) and the province of Gaza returned to Israeli administration. Or not! Honestly, who cares?
whose family hasn’t set foot in the territory for 2000 years
How do you figure “2000 years”? They probably have family there right now. They probably flew there for Seder!
I would like to bring up jewish people living in any other country that is not officially Jewish, where “even when they were there, they did not rule it”.
That’s correct; Jews have been second-class citizens and subject to oppression, explulsion, and genocide in every nation on Earth save their own. Hence, control over their homeland is necessary to prevent the complete extinction of the Jewish people and their culture. Great point, thanks for making it!
Or should Jews outside Israel be subject to the kind of treatment Israel reserves for Arabs?
Arabs aren’t so treated in Israel. They’re first class citizens with their own representation in the government. Does the UK extend Jews their own member of the legislature or naw?
But the Arabs are the colonial power. Judea and Samaria aren’t in Arabia, are they?
The source is well-known history. Open any book on the topic: British Mandate wasn’t just given to the Jews. The State of Israel was created for the Jews, and the Kingdom of Transjordan (now Jordan) was created for the Arabs. When they say “river to the sea” what river did you think they meant?
Jordan is the nation that Palestinians already have. They don’t want another one; they want the Jews to not have one at all.
All Jordians are Palestinians with Jordanian citizenship, though.
They have a right to form their own political entity.
They did. It’s called Jordan.
Palestinians have a claim to the land because the population has lived in the land for a long time and can establish a state under the right to self determination.
But they can’t, though, because they aren’t self-determining - sovereign - and never have been. There’s no legal Palestinian claim to the State of Israel.
Israel rightly, justly, and legally holds its territory. It is not and has never been the territory of any nation called “Palestine.” Israel holds dominion by bequeathment from the British Mandate, itself given authority over the land by war with the Ottoman Empire.
It’s the homeland of the Jews. It’s not the homeland of Palestinian Arabs - most of the “refugees” have never even set foot there. There’s no chain of reasoning or law by which you can state a Palestinian claim to the land of Israel. Even when they were there, they didn’t rule it.
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