Only if you follow the script(s).

No? I mean, not until after I read your comment…

I made a tangential point, where some people are okay with having less content as a result of being defederated even from as large and central an instance as Lemmy.World - i.e. it’s not always the amount of content so much as its quality - to then apply that same principle to the Fediverse at large.

Tolerance of the intolerant is not okay. As you try to bring in more people, some people will balk at coming and others already here will leave, if the experience seems unwelcoming to them.

People need to feel safe in the space they are in, or else they will not enjoy talking. I guess it may sound counterintuitive, but being intolerant - but only of the intolerant!! - actually increases engagement and participation, not the other way around. imho.

A reminder that this is not about Beehaw - this is about Rin, and their own personal preferences:

I’m 1) very much already tired and don’t want to spend a ton of time curating a block list and 2) just trying to find a community to fit in where I’m comfortable.

Each person may have their own idea as to what is “comfortable”, for them. If Beehaw works fine just the way it is, then that’s fantastic!

More broadly across the Fediverse though, individual users have to put in a lot of effort to curate their experience. e.g. not going to political communities is insufficient, when people (including myself:-D) bring up political matters or adjacent philosophies to many types of discussions - memes, about freedom to enjoy the Fediverse, technology, etc.

In the past I have very much bought the content legally, by the normal means. The issue of giving to the creators directly I don’t know though.

This is what it seems like every instance admin has not wanted to acknowledge: that tolerating the intolerant will destroy us.

Fortunately v0.19.4 has some new features that look like they may help - particularly the ability to label a community with a warning, like : “⚠️ You are about to enter the cesspit of human behavior that actively defends genocide (by mods removing all contrary facts), so long as it is done by the Right people (Russia, or ironically also Left, China).”

It’s like the tiniest step that could possibly be done, and it leaves the ability for Lemmy.ml users to place comments in every post across the Fediverse too - unlike a bona fide instance block, although to my knowledge there are no major instances that actually defederates from them.

Yes it’s in your settings, the Export/Import JSON file, easier done with a desktop - in case you ever need to give it a try! :-)

My problem is that I tend to keep up multiple accounts at a time, bc random server issues creep up (like Kbin.Social that I had to abandon; and then StarTrek got extremely slow and 75% of the time I try to make a comment it would fail). So probably I should make use of this feature more to keep the blocklists more updated:-).

One thought is to try user blocking Lemmy.ml. Unlike an instance block a user one is not sufficient bc you can still view the comments, and I’m pretty sure that they can still downvote you (occasionally they have been known to coordinate mass downvoting campaigns on Matrix too, people say), so all it really does is block communities from those instances from showing in your All feed, and if someone replies to you then you won’t receive a notification to that effect. Otherwise it’s back to blocking users one by one…

I wish there was a major, known instance somewhere that defederated from Lemmy.ml. Even Kbin.Social does not though.

It will indeed be interesting to see how Sublinks will improve things.:-)

Ooh, another one:

I would say “enjoy flashing everyone”… but that could be awkward, so make sure to flash responsibly:-D

For those of us who read developer code better than PO/PM “english”, indeed code is the documentation, or at least can be. Ofc when the code is thousands of lines long, split between multiple files, interacts with networked resources that you’ve never heard of, sending signals that do who knows what downstream, upstream, sidestream, flipstream, or whatever… yeah documentation can be important too:-). Also when the code is in some other language that you don’t know quite as well.

By “testing” I should clarify that I did not necessarily mean things like user or unit testing - though that stuff has its place too - but rather even more foundational “verify that your code does what it is supposed to do” kind of testing:-). One could argue that that is just straight-up “writing code”, but then too writing documentation could be folded into that as well, e.g. having things like human-readable variable names, Pre & Post conditionals for functions and the like, so it all gets a bit fuzzy here.

And if we are being pedantic, a “quick call?” could save a month or year’s worth of time “writing code”, to ensure that you know what needs / desires to be done. Likewise, updating Jira could save someone else SOO much time, or even yourself down the line when you wonder about something that was never mentioned. So I assume that OP was not taking this all that seriously, and just joking about “yeah, meetings are less fun than writing code”, and we all ofc have to pile on with our further opinions about what’s fun:-).

It depends where you go - e.g. the entire purpose of chapotraphouse is to dunk on people, and the users on that instance constantly crawl out from under their bridge and harass innocent passer-bys in other communities. But if you block a few notable places, which sometimes your instance does for you (I note that yours in particular does not though), then overall the Fediverse can be quite a pleasant place!:-)

Hehe, no hate here - I likewise was spinning off of what you said, carrying it forward:-) (bc those are quite important matters indeed!)

And isn’t testing even more so!?

Tbf, there’s no “right” anymore in the USA - it got eaten up, vomited back out, re-eaten again, with that process repeated a few times, and is now known as the “Alt-Right”, before being subsequently rebranded yet again as “Q”.

In other words, the old “GOP” (e.g. Mitch McConnell) is virtually dead at this point, or at least barely hanging on by the slimmest of threads, while now long live the “GQP”, that is an entirely different beast.

And I think I am hearing similarly of the UK as well, with Brexit?

So if you meant that we need a healthy balance of diverse viewpoints, then I am 100% with you, but if you mean that we need to pollute true scientific facts with the craziest batshit insanity that anyone has ever heard of, then not so much:-). Diversity among viable solutions = good, whereas a literal Civil War b/c the “right” is throwing a temper tantrum = not so much. Even/especially the very people in charge… they are so scared of what is happening, the dissolution of a nation right before all of our eyes, and on their watch too.

Fwiw, a lot of us were ready to leave it anyway. Reddit used to be a place for left-leaning people, though I would guess more of the progressive liberal-relative-to-center variety, due to it being started from within the USA (I joined it quite late so not totally sure).

Its downhill slide was long and convoluted and not evenly distributed across all subs. There were pockets of resistance, and probably some niche communities remain even now that are halfway tolerable. Anything worth doing takes real effort to build, and some people have put in those efforts and held on tenaciously. And, to be very clear, morally as well: e.g. places that try to reach the maximum audience possible to combat misinformation, or suicidal or similar behaviors - those places NEED to be on Reddit, yes and even Twitter/X, and 🤮 Facebook too, to achieve their aims of maximal outreach (at which point they could do dual duty to funnel people to the real places too:-).

For those of us that want deeper discourse, Reddit was not meeting that need, but Lemmy/Mbin very much does:-). Btw fascinating related article: https://medium.com/@max.p.schlienger/the-cargo-cult-of-the-ennui-engine-890c541cebcb.

So that’s one category of people, and another is the set of those who just needed to be awakened in order to realize what was going on. Maybe they were busy with children irl or some such and didn’t notice Reddit’s slide. I am glad that we can provide a home to them as well - it enriches us all to have more people here (mostly).

I wonder if part of it is that climate change might mean the death of modern human civilization, so could the slim hope of life as a slave seem more preferable than the greater certainty of death as a free agent?

I cannot fathom that, but then again that’s why I am on the Fediverse rather than on Reddit. :-P

Great synopsis. I may have found a twenty first definition if you want!?:-P

It absolutely is imho. Like at some point it was not social media as it became later, following (well, attempting to) the financial success of Facebook and Twitter/X, and instead people could submit long-form answers to questions, rather than merely vomit their feelings into the never-ending stream of others doing the same.

^This

I also choose this guy’s wife

And my bow

etc.

By deprioritizing people finding answers and instead encouraging them to make new posts all on their own to ask the question yet again, over & over, spez tried to make money and enshittified Reddit by taking it away from its original purpose that had given it such a reputation for being great.

So it’s not “having ads” that destroyed it, but the chasing after ad revenue at all costs that was driving it into the dirt. Even before the protests revealed that starkly to us all that the Reddit we had known and use to love was dead - spez had stolen it, he took our efforts and that ad-bloated, authoritatian-modded corpse was what was leftover. And it wasn’t even bc of profits alone, but greed in chasing short-term profits above all else, including long-term profits. Aka capitalism killed it.