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  • I don’t think you understand how posting hypotheticals on forums works; they get elaborated and “tested” by asking questions or positing premises. Thought experiments, as you seem to be aware of the term at least.

    OP used the word exactly.

    That means you have exact knowledge of it.

    Of course having exact foreknowledge of such a thing would affect your life. Would that effect then affect the thing being the exact time and date? If not, then it’s utter gibberish, because by telling you about it, they’ve already changed history and thus it won’t apply anymore.

    If however it won’t affect it, then you’ve gained immortality. You could play Russian roulette as much as you want and never have to fear dying. You can perhaps argue that maybe you survive a shot, but how would that be possible from a large calibre revolver aimed directly at the brainstem?


  • Paralysed from the neck down.

    Then how am I gonna run the marathon?

    So you’re saying you have no free will whatsoever, but despite whatever happens, the prophecy will be true?

    That I could never drive an older car pretty much, because it’s easy to kill yourself with one. Much less a motorbike without a helmet.

    I can never hold anything sharp which could cut the jugular. Couldn’t manage to go swimming, because diving deep and inhaling would somehow have to fail?

    Either the prediction is bullshit, oooor it gives you magical plot armor (unless it’s extremely vague, but that goes against OP’s description),


  • C4 is the easiest for this example. I can definitely manage explosives. You can rather easily make things which blow up.

    Let’s make this easier then, I go to the woods and set up a huge fucking boulder on an elaborate pulley system (don’t worry about me finding them, I live in Finland were boulders and rocky surfaces are a plenty. My cousins actually operate a gravel business, so they have lots of proper gear for breaking rocks into smaller rocks, and vehicles to do those things with. So let’s say there’s a pit. I lay a ton of harsh gravel on the bottom of it, a proper few meter layer. Then I take a loader full of massive boulders. And another. And a third one. Place them around the pit. Place myself in the pit, and remotely activate the loaders to drop all those boulders on me. Oh and I didn’t mention, but I put a bed in the pit with me. It’s a bed of extremely sharp knives, covered by a thin cardboard so I don’t get stabbed if I easy myself onto it. On top of that, there’ another bed, upside down, also loaded with insanely sharp swords. All of the boulders will fall into the pit, crushing the bed system, which stabs and slices me into pieces while the boulders to the rest of the work. (The bed frames are soft enough so that they can hold knives, but will be utterly deformed by the boulders so they won’t stay in the way.

    Then I’ve also paid for a crazy cousin to empty both barrels of a shotgun to my face with a full metal slug right as the stones start dropping.

    But… I’ll survive?




  • In that scenario you can’t die of dehydration but you’re going to die of dehydration forcibly. So what’s going to happen?

    Youre going to die of dehydration, because you we’re simply unaware that drinking too much flushes the sodium out of your body which is what makes you able to retain enough water to function.

    Ironically people in hot environments and drinking a ton of water can end up severely dehydrated (mainly if they don’t eat anything, as food has a sodium and other electrolytes).

    Now if you drank mineral water (or sports drinks but they’re rather sugary nowadays) or just added a tiny bit of salt to the water you drink, then it would break the prophecy.

    Similarly ironic is that a lot of people who aren’t used to cold environments and get lost in the woods or something usually end up suffering heat stroke, as they’ve only a massively thick puffy jacket and walking still generates heat, which the jacket traps and your body can’t cool down and overheats. (Layers and breathing materials underneath the top layers is good, as then you can open or remove a layer as needed to regulate your body temp.)

    For the sake of the topic of the thread, I’d like to know what happens if I’m told I die in 50 years from a heart attack while running a marathon, and after hearing that I jump out of a window, try to blow my brains out or shove a block of C4 up my bowels and blow myself up? I should survive, yes? And in condition to (attempt to) run a marathon?

    Because if it’s not locked like that and can be changed then it’s more of a guess than accurate foreknowledge.







  • I probably would, yeah.

    You might, if the context really called for it. Like when talking about the difference between morning wood and actual arousal. You know the difference right? But you don’t have enough empathy to understand women also get aroused, and it’s not just about “vaginal wetness”. Which is why describing a man getting horny as “getting penile stiffness”.

    But you’re having trouble being honest, so that’s just another example of it. More with yourself than with me.

    So I’m the misogynist while you’re over here like “Have you considered that women are shallow cheating sluts?”

    I’m not the one slut-shaming someone. It’s none of your business who someone has sex with, and the fact that you instantly go to “slut” instead of say, abusive, uncaring husband whom the woman is no longer in love with, says a lot, doesn’t it?

    The first comment of yours I replied to had “ugly chicks” in it. First off… “chicks”? Second, saying things like that is exactly why women perceive you as incredibly unattractive. Because unlike for you, women aren’t interested just in physical attractiveness. It is one of many factors that come into play as to whether a person is attractive or not. A woman might say they’d have sex with a person based on their physical attractiveness, but if they had to do it based on talking to someone for a minutes, being a shallow misogynistic dick would override even the best looks. Because despite your delusions, women do actually have thoughts and feelings.

    I’m not the problem here. I live in a world where most employers would pay you in company scrip rather than USD if, nay, when they’re allowed to get away with it again. I live in a world where 100% of the phone calls I get are scams or reminders of doctor’s appointments. I live in a world where packages of food labeled 12 ounces have 9 ounces of food in them. Everyone is out to scam you. EVERYONE.

    “I”, “I”, “I”, “me”, “me”, “me”, “me”. “I have no friends, I don’t get anything but scam calls, people don’t like me, everyone is out to scam me” … “I’m not the problem”.

    No, you’re not the problem. You have a problem. You’re depressed. Get help for it.

    Yes, problems exist. Yes, shitty people exist. But “only the Sith deal in absolutes” and so-on. You definitely need therapy.

    Do you know what also exist? Difference in physical attractiveness between men. For instance, you seem completely incapable of making women or anyone like you for that matter. I’ve never had a problem with it. Actually, I’ve had a problem making friends too easily, and women fawning over me too much. Even to the point I’ve realised I could actually abuse them, just like all the good looking assholes in the movies. The problem is, that’s the sort of assholery I’m really not into. So I don’t.

    People might not really love you, but how deeply fucked up do you have to be to think that your situation is extrapolated to every single other person?

    So I guess you may have just never really even experienced love. And that’s why I honestly suggest you look into psychedelic-assisted therapy. Jokes aside, it fucking works. No-one wants to be around a misery like you, but don’t think that means that no-one wants to be around anyone, that friends don’t care for each other, that you can’t love someone or have meaningful relationships. It’s weird how you keep pretending women are some sort of parasites, but yet you never address the implication that it works both ways, which means you think men “actually” love women, but that women just don’t have the ability.

    Which is loud as fuck for “I had a bad relationship and never had the coping tools to get over it so now I’m nearing 40 and I’m alone, sad and scared, so I lash out and pretend caring isn’t real like some sort of teenage incel”

    So you’re still saying that there’s no difference in physical attractiveness between Brad Pitt and say… you? ;P



  • Well, I guess there’s really no hope for you anymore. Well, with PAT it would be probably possible, but I seriously doubt it at that point.

    “More visibly damaged”

    Ah, so because I pointed out that you actually admitted to there being a difference, you’re now eating your words and saying “there’s no difference in physical attractiveness”.

    Either you’re lying to keep up the pretense you need to (because of your own level of attractiveness), or you literally have brain damage. You don’t want to see the ugly truth that ugly people are at a disadvantage, both male and female. :)

    https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2003-05637-007 https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1975-01055-001 https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2007-01479-006

    “Vaginal wetness because of facial symmetry isn’t real.”

    Weird way to try to say that “I don’t want to admit that women have the capacity to be sexually attracted to how someone looks, despite that being an objective and incontrovertible fact, because I’ve never had that happen to me, so it can’t be real, because I don’t want to admit what an uggo I myself am”.

    You know what definitely is real though? Vaginal dryness after hearing sentences like “vaginal wetness because of facial symmetry”. Such incel comments. You’re trying to objectify women to the extent that you don’t even want to think about there being an actual person who gets aroused because of something they see, so you don’t even talk of arousal, you talk of “vaginal wetness”. Would you ever write “penile stiffness” when talking about getting hard?

    I can see after this conversation why you’d need those delusions to be true, because with the rhetorical output of a teenage incel, you’re definitely never gonna induce “vaginal wetness” in anyone.

    Weird how pretty much every relationship I’ve been in as a man has been me getting money and chores out of the women, instead of the other way around. So I guess you’re also gonna pretend that you don’t understand the sterotype of the extremely good looking guy who goes around banging the wives of the less-than-attractive men while they’re at work? What exactly is the woman getting out the guy she’s fucking in secret?

    Teaching young men that they can be liked for who they are is just…harmful.

    Wrong. It’s the exact way we avoid them turning out like you, a delusional guy saying “ugly chicks” and “vaginal wetness” while being on the lowest ladder of male attractiveness.

    The good point is that even people like you can improve. Just stop with the crazy misogyny, go to therapy, hit the gym and take care of your skin. Facial features don’t matter as much as your facial expressions. So there’s hope for you yet, but only after you fix yourself up, psyche and all.


  • Give the second man the first man’s cosmetic surgery budget and they’d bear a striking resemblance

    So you admit that there IS a difference in their physical attractiveness, which means that such a thing does exist, meaning you admit you said something you don’t actually believe in.

    My point exactly.

    Don’t worry, the bitterness of having crushed so hard on a person you didn’t even manage to talk to will fade when you grow up. Well, hopefully you do at some point at least. I don’t know how ugly you are, but it can’t be much uglier than your rhetoric. I suspect you keep reading some of the “tips” of others (internally and externally) ugly guys like whathisface who’s locked up in Romania.


  • So you’re saying there is ZERO DIFFERENCE in physical attractiveness between the two pictures I posted?

    Jesus you’re bitter. You should look into psychedelic assisted therapy.

    They will only pretend to like you so they can get money, things and chores from you.

    I’ve been offered money to have sex with women, several times.
    Weird how they’ve given me money, things and done my chores if they only want those things from me, huh?

    The reason you feel that way is that you’re a bitter misogynist who writes things like “that’s for ugly chicks”, while actively pretending attractiveness in men doesn’t exist so you don’t have to face being an “ugly chick” yourself.

    Yeah, it’s true golddiggers exist, but if you stop being such a massive cunt you might one who isn’t.

    But that’s all in your future, as I’m pretty positive I’m talking to a teenager who’s annoyed that his crush liked the boy with the more expensive phone or a newer vehicle of some sort, something to that effect.

    You’ll get over it.