The shitstorm of a fallout has pushed the community behind Billet Labs more than they ever would have gotten had they just gotten reviewed properly. It may have sucked what had happened but I think they will be better off in the long term now that people are aggressively supportive of them. Funny twist of fate in my opinion.
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Billet Labs decided that they don’t want it back and just want the compensation instead. They started to make a new prototype as it is likely faster than them getting back the original if at all. Can’t say I blame them.
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The just seem to have no documentation going on.
They not only accidentally auctioned of the prototype, they also lost the 3090Ti that was send with the prototype, you know the proper card to test that on, they lost the sheet of who they auctioned what to - and that’s just the stuff in this single case. I can only imagine that they just have a single crammed storage room where they just randomly drop things and hope to find them later when they need it.
Considering that it’s normal for their employes to take anything they want home, i doubt they ever had a working inventory system.
Problem is, we don’t know how many companies folded because of flawed reviews.
If you’re just a small company, it’s already hard enough to compete with the big guys, but if then there’s a bad review on LTT, you might as well just close shop. And given how poorly things went over the last months, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are 20 more reviews with just as bad preparation.
I still wish we would have gotten a proper benchmark of their prototype :-/
If it actually works well they could always release a cheaper mass produced version down the line.
Somewhere in my imagination the person who got the prototype sends it to Gamers Nexus and they make a proper review.
I mean, the kind of person who would get this thing is the kind of person that pays attention to the industry and to linus tech tips, I am sure they are aware about all of this.
One can only hope. Worst case the individual either works for the competition or got ten times their money back by selling it to a Chinese company.
I bet an actual ethical review would probably kill the company as much as Linus’s video. At the end of the day, I agree with Linus’s assessment (minus his hysterics). This thing is over $800. It could be half the price and still be a terrible option. In a way, the video was kinda like those “i made a wish pc” videos where they lampoon a product or an entire company. And LMG makes a ton of those videos.
It’s basically sharing a heatsink between the GPU and CPU. There’s not much reason to do that even in SFF pcs because the biggest part of the water cooling system is the radiator. And I think this wouldn’t work in many sff cases anyway because they tend to be sandwich oriented, using risers to mount the gpu on the other side of the mobo.
I think that may be what linus meant about “reading the room”. I think the tone with the video was one of a real review but the content matched more of their videos where they buy dumb garbage online. I’m not excusing it at all and lmg definitely deserve the negative publicity.
But at the end of the day Linus was kinda right, there’s no cooling solution worth it at that price point and it is in fact a bad product regardless of how well it cools your card. You can buy a brand new intel 13900k and have over $200 left over
This is the dumbest take I’ve read so far. It’s not about whether the product is worth it or not… that doesn’t play into this whatsofuckingever.
It makes sense if you hold them to high journalistic standards for the wish.com pc builds, fake knockoffs, and I bought 10 stupid things from Amazon and we’re gonna make fun of them videos as well. I watched the video yesterday to see what it was about and the tone is about the same, it was a foregone conclusion that the price was ridiculous and the item would never be worth your money and they were not really going to give it a real rigorous evaluation. I don’t care if you defend folks who spend $8 million on stupid shit because they have more money than sense. That’s not someone I care enough about to defend, but those are the only people that would even think about buying this thing. I’m not a LTT fanboy. The GN video was really good and I hope LTT improves significantly in many ways. Selling the prototype was extremely shitty. But to say this isn’t about whether the product is worth it is a stupid take in and of itself. The value proposition of the product isn’t changed by the way LTT did them dirty. And that was the point I was making originally. I am definitely not contesting that LTT did them dirty, and then lied about it several times, nor am I stating that LTT is the paragon of hardware reviews. I simply stated that with regard to all that, I agree with Linus’s conclusion completely.
I’m going to quote another user’s comment on this to show this does have a market and the founders were honest about it:
I rewatched the video for this block and in the literal video itself he quotes one of the founders acknowledging that this is uber expensive and definitely meant more for like few boutique buyers. So how does this end up getting a review for the general audience when they had already acknowledged the general audience wasn’t the target for this product and Linus himself said that the market for this is very niche.
The market for this is basically people who have the money and know how to install something like this and want to spend a hefty sum on something that is acknowledged to be nice and unique but not game changing but was reviewed as if some basic ass civilian like me is going to go out and buy this tomorrow
It’s not for you to decide on if someone else should buy it. End of fucking story. I can guarantee you have bought some things that I would deem to be stupid, and not having a positive expected value too. People spend money on whatever the fuck they like, some douchebag named Linus tripling down on his incompetent review is the problem here… again, it has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the product is overpriced to you or to the general consumer. That doesn’t fucking matter.
I’m into tools, I work on all my own vehicles and have a shop. I have bought a gold plated ratchet, I paid twice as much for it over the same thing with normal chrome plating. It’s a showpiece. That’s what this is. And it’s function deserves to be reviewed accurately, or not at all.
Like I said, I’m not invested enough in rich people who buy dumb shit to defend them online. I just don’t care, and I don’t care if all content online doesn’t cater to them, as you seem to suggest. You seem to suggest some kind of violence even, in not catering to idiots with too much money and time. Sorry man, but no, that’s no the “hot take” you think it is. LTT and Billet labs can be dumb simultaneously.
It’s not for you to decide on if someone else should buy it.
wtf does this even mean. this sounds like the kinda shit someone who buys a gold plated ratchet would say
You seem to suggest some kind of violence even
Yeah? Where? You’re fucking delusional.
wtf does this even mean. this sounds like the kinda shit someone who buys a gold plated ratchet would say
Does every single item in your house serve a practical purpose and you have nothing that serves aesthetically? And also, you have never paid more for one item over another because it provides better aesthetics? Do you not have hobbies? I guarantee I could take one look through your house and point out much dumber shit you have bought in a matter of two minutes. You’re a moron, with dumb takes.
Also, the tools I’ve bought over the years have saved me literal thousands of dollars and have given me skills and experience that you can’t buy… so paying another $20 for a gold plated ratchet is a problem to you? Spoken like someone with no life skills, and no money.
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