I can’t get a good answer for this as Google is thinking I’m talking just solely on the driver. I’m including passengers who don’t. I’ve seen PSAs that tell you the dangers you pose for others as well when you don’t wear a seatbelt. So if you don’t wear a seatbelt and that results in someone being killed could you not wearing a seatbelt mean you get a manslaughter charge?

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    Same idea, but if a pedestrian is jaywalking across a street, technically illegal and it’s not a safe move - but is struck by a car - the car is still at fault. As a driver you are still in charge of driving a 2-5 thousand pound hunk of steel and you accept that risk when you get behind the wheel. So I think logically, what the person was doing was not the smartest - but that doesn’t mean they deserved death for it - you are responsible.

    Think about it this way - if you hadn’t been there driving would they have been fine? If so, you caused it, you’re at fault.

    Same applies to rape and dressing provocatively. It’s an irrelevant argument because it puts blame on the victim, when no matter what they do they don’t deserve that outcome. The blame is on the person who caused it in the first place.

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      I’m sorry, but this kind of logic just baffles me. Are you talking out of your ass on this one? If you’re driving and I’ll jump onto the road right in front of you, will you still be at fault? Where in the world would that be the case? If I come to a factory and stick my hand into a wood chipper that someone was operating and then say “whoever the hell was operating this 5 thousand pound hunk of steel should be at fault now!”, would I be correct in my logic?

      Think about it this way - if you hadn’t been there driving would they have been fine? If so, you caused it, you’re at fault

      This is next level mental gymnastics. If someone robbed you, think about it this way - if you hadn’t been there, none of it would have happened. So maybe you’re at fault after all

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      My grandpa ran over a woman who walked into the street late at night. There was no way for him to have avoided it. He did not get in trouble. This was in California.