• PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    4 months ago

    ??? Why would old collaborators (of which decidents were justly punished later) hurt “the tankie”?

    Better mention banderites who ran off to the west where they were sucking up to CIA, MI6 and West German washed-nazi intelligence while murdering people left and right (in Germany, after war no less). it’s even in the wiki too.

      • freagle@lemmygrad.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        4 months ago

        Molotov-Ribbentrop is a great example of liberals not being able to think for themselves. Hitler literally wrote in Mein Kampf that his goal was to destroy the communist movement, occupy Russia, and enslave the Slavs. It is literally impossible for the Soviets to believe they could form an alliance, which means your conclusion that Molotov-Ribbentrop constitutes meaningful collaboration is incorrect.

        If you study the history around it, the USSR wanted absolutely nothing to do with war after its revolution because it wanted to focus all of its efforts on building a new nation. The treaty was negotiated in attempt to delay armed conflict as much as possible and to take advantage of contradictions in capitalism/fascism to create that extra time.

        • sunzu@kbin.run
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          4 months ago

          which means your conclusion that Molotov-Ribbentrop constitutes meaningful collaboration is incorrect.

          Enough to split up Poland tho haha

          Cope harder boy

            • sunzu@kbin.run
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              4 months ago

              Now we are talking!

              Doesn’t execuse soviet behavior but some very valuable history that people should be aware of. Remember folks they did this back then and again in 2014 with Crimea.

              No wonder Putin thought of the west as a bunch of limp dick cucks. Took Germany well into 2023 to finally change its posture. Pathetic

              “Never gain” rheee

              • carl_marks[use name]@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                4 months ago

                Doesn’t execuse soviet behavior but some very valuable history that people should be aware of.

                Yes which you fail to contextualize. The soviets failed to find allies against Hitler before the war, and saw their collaboration in the Munich agreement and the deal with Hitler being made at their expense instead. You bringing up M-R NON AGGRESSION pact as a form of collaboration and not as a stalling of the inevitable explanation of Hitler to the east is just cope

                Remember folks they did this back then and again in 2014 with Crimea.

                “Fellas did you know mordern Bourgeoise Russia is the same as the soviets??”

                • sunzu@kbin.run
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  You bringing up M-R NON AGGRESSION pact as a form of collaboration and not as a stalling of the inevitable explanation of Hitler to the east is just cope

                  Poland bro… They invaded a country together and split up. I know a bad fact for your narrative but get real here.

                  Fellas did you know mordern Bourgeoise Russia is the same as the soviets??"

                  Russia here is the nazi Germany with Crimea annexation and the west… The same limp dick west it always has been enabling nazis while wasting national wealth chasing goat fuckers around

                  • carl_marks[use name]@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    0
                    ·
                    4 months ago

                    Poland bro… They invaded a country together and split up. I know a bad fact for your narrative but get real here.

                    Two weeks after the Nazis invaded and the polish state dissolved already.

                    goat fuckers

                    Libs and being racist. Classic

      • duderium2@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        4 months ago

        Hey liberal, I’m a little fuzzy on dates. Did this happen before or after the Munich agreement? Before or after Stalin tried to ally with Britain and France against the Nazis?