• Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I’m saying that china + soviet union has defined and continue to define what communism is. It’s a word that’s tainted forever.

    Just like, for example, Christianity is defined by modern Christians.

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      1 year ago

      They define the cultural idea of communism

      I hate being “that guy” tm but

      The Soviet Union only briefly played with the idea of communism before committing to a single party socialist Republic. Modern day Russia is an autocratic dictatorship hiding in a Trenchcoat with “democracy” written on it.

      China is again, a one party state which is, in truth, a Republic. China’s historical dances with “communism” are rather similar to that of the USSR wherein an offshoot of marxist-leninism was implemented, modified and then used, ultimately landing closer… Again to a socialist Republic and now being effectively an autocratic dictatorship hiding in a Trenchcoat… Etc. Etc.

      Neither country in my opinion ever reached the illusory “true communism”. Maybe the west is right and it’s a failed ideology, maybe “it just hasn’t had the right leader yet” but ultimately, I believe most political ideologies have good bits that we can take notes on to improve the lives of others.

      I apologize for any historical or political inaccuracies, wrote this with knowledge from the best of my memory while on the toilet at work

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        1 year ago

        Some good info in here.

        From what you’ve said, it looks like communism has a historical tendency to become an authoritarian dictatorship, in turn redefining what ‘communism’ means to most people?

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          I think authoritarian states typically get mislabeled very easily within modern times, especially by themselves. Some precedent I believe should exist for what I would loosely call “Stalinist” Communism, as that is what has been the most historical application of the term. But the modern Chinese state I believe would make Mao, Lenin, and even Stalin roll around in their graves by being considered Communist, and we should call a spade a spade. China is a fascist country now.