• protist@mander.xyz
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    3 months ago

    Fuck you for calling me a Nazi apologist, I didn’t apologize for Nazis at all. What this dude did in the Nazi army is real, and nothing at all you’ve said here changes that he was a 17 year old infantryman during the Slovakia uprising. I couldn’t even imagine being a Ukrainian during this period in history. This guy grew up in Ukraine under Soviet occupation during the fucking Holodomor. How absolutely fucked is it that the Nazis gave them hope to get out from under Stalin’s thumb. As a literal child, this guy and his entire country was faced with an impossible situation. And once again, he was a literal child.

    Four years later, he emigrated to Canada and did a bunch of high profile academic work over six decades to promote multiculturalism and tolerance within Canada, literally the opposite of what Hitler tried to do. Dude spent his entire life trying to do the opposite of what Hitler tried to do. Fuck off dude, the world isn’t only black or white

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      If you had read the article you would know the guy grew up in what was then Poland during the Holodomor, not Ukraine. You probably have double genocide brainworms, and this excuses nothing. (Nazi apologia count: 1)

      You ignored where I quoted how the guy was at the consecration of a fucking Waffen-SS memorial in 1976, you know, at age 50. Instead you keep repeating how young he was (Nazi apologia count: 2)

      You also ignored that the guy is definitely a war criminal, being part of the Waffen-SS in Slovakia, instead you paint him as the victim. Oh how hard it must have been during the Slovakia uprising, for, *checks notes*, the poor Waffen-SS soldier on massacre duty. Come on, you got to be kidding me. (Nazi apologia count: 3)

      Then there’s some bullshit about how “Nazis gave them hope” (do you hear yourself?) and “impossible situation”, apparently that’s a valid excuse to join the Waffen-SS in your book. You know who didn’t join the Waffen-SS? Literally almost every other Ukrainian. (Nazi apologia count: 4, 5)

      Can I see this promotion of multiculturalism and tolerance please? And how is it possible that this very tolerant man put up a Waffen-SS memorial at age 50? I don’t believe you, you’re making this shit up. But I see this fun quote by him about multiculturalism:

      “I kept telling Peter [Lougheed]: ‘broaden the base, involve the ethnics, like Ukrainians and Germans, that no one is enlisting,’” Savaryn said in an interview with the Edmonton Journal, the mouthpiece of Alberta’s Conservatives.

      Or maybe you mean that he was president of the “World Congress of Free Ukrainians”? Because I can already smell the fascist OUN stink coming off of this org. Oh yeah here it is.