Steven Nikoui, the father a Marine killed during the U.S. withdrawal of Afghanistan, was arrested Thursday evening for shouting from a House gallery at President Biden during his State of the Union…
It’s not what he said that got him in trouble, it was disrupting the event and refusing to leave. Freedom of speech doesn’t give you the right to stand on top of a fast food counter and yell about politics either. If they ask you to leave, you must leave. Stop being so obtuse.
Some people have a really hard time understand what the First Amendment guarantees. It’s that the government can’t arrest you for criticizing them or running an opposition party, mainly. Which DOES happen in many other countries.
Of course the US has had fucked up instances of that like the FBI investigating MLK, plus so much more. But this incident isn’t it.
I do agree with that fully. $500 fine and up to 90 days in prison is the range according to the article. I think a week or two is plenty, so I’m thinking less than 20% of the max. Since the guy lost his son, I’d be fine with 3 days or so honestly.
Classic liberal - public politics on government property is exactly like McBurgers.
It was a public event, on public land, in public property, and it was about politics. It couldn’t have been more germane to the context. He also didn’t “stand on the counter”. The fact that he was asked to leave for doing anything other than cheering and clapping is the problem
So freedom of speech is when speech is illegal. Got it.
It’s not what he said that got him in trouble, it was disrupting the event and refusing to leave. Freedom of speech doesn’t give you the right to stand on top of a fast food counter and yell about politics either. If they ask you to leave, you must leave. Stop being so obtuse.
Some people have a really hard time understand what the First Amendment guarantees. It’s that the government can’t arrest you for criticizing them or running an opposition party, mainly. Which DOES happen in many other countries.
Of course the US has had fucked up instances of that like the FBI investigating MLK, plus so much more. But this incident isn’t it.
I am fine with him being arrested for not leaving, but I think the bad part is if he got anything but a slap on the wrist.
I do agree with that fully. $500 fine and up to 90 days in prison is the range according to the article. I think a week or two is plenty, so I’m thinking less than 20% of the max. Since the guy lost his son, I’d be fine with 3 days or so honestly.
Classic liberal - public politics on government property is exactly like McBurgers.
It was a public event, on public land, in public property, and it was about politics. It couldn’t have been more germane to the context. He also didn’t “stand on the counter”. The fact that he was asked to leave for doing anything other than cheering and clapping is the problem
This is too dishonest to even respond to further.