I mean, I think I understand what you are trying to say, the people who where born in Isn’treal, with an Isn’treal passport are not settlers, and while I can agree in principle, that is really not the case for the vast majority of them, the majority of citizens of Isn’treal have a second citizenship and moved in. For a settler colony so new (and arguably for any of them) it is hard to seperate normal citizen and settler
that is not all of what accounts for 2 citizenship holding, For example if I moved to Canada, as a Yank, and had a child, my child would be born with dule citizenship, even though my child was not forign born as they had Jus Sanguin citizenship from the USA and Jus Soili (yes I know I miss spelled both of them) from Canada… and that would carry on, theoreticaly in perpituity (though realisticly at some point through the generations if they stayed in Canada at some point someone would forget to tell the USA about the new citizen and functionaly the dule citizenship would stop)
I am also aware that you do not have to be first generation to be a settler in a settler colony, I was trying to give the person I was replying to the benifit of the doubt in what they where trying to say, IE: the people who where born their, and do not have another citizenship to move to another country with are innocent civilians, as I mentioned it is hard in a settler colony to define between a “citizen” and a “settler” as a wise friend told me once, settler colonialism really F*cks with how nation states work
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Israeli citizens are not terrorists…. The Israeli government, the IDF and the settlers are.
I mean, I think I understand what you are trying to say, the people who where born in Isn’treal, with an Isn’treal passport are not settlers, and while I can agree in principle, that is really not the case for the vast majority of them, the majority of citizens of Isn’treal have a second citizenship and moved in. For a settler colony so new (and arguably for any of them) it is hard to seperate normal citizen and settler
@CooperRedArmyDog people don’t have to be first generation settlers in order for a settler colony to count as a settler society.
Objectively wrong, I’d encourage you to look this stat up on something factual like the this OECD website page or similar.
Israel usually has a foreign-born population of around 25% - which is about the same as the figure for Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
that is not all of what accounts for 2 citizenship holding, For example if I moved to Canada, as a Yank, and had a child, my child would be born with dule citizenship, even though my child was not forign born as they had Jus Sanguin citizenship from the USA and Jus Soili (yes I know I miss spelled both of them) from Canada… and that would carry on, theoreticaly in perpituity (though realisticly at some point through the generations if they stayed in Canada at some point someone would forget to tell the USA about the new citizen and functionaly the dule citizenship would stop)
I am also aware that you do not have to be first generation to be a settler in a settler colony, I was trying to give the person I was replying to the benifit of the doubt in what they where trying to say, IE: the people who where born their, and do not have another citizenship to move to another country with are innocent civilians, as I mentioned it is hard in a settler colony to define between a “citizen” and a “settler” as a wise friend told me once, settler colonialism really F*cks with how nation states work
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Well i would just like to point out that Israel is claiming they are targeting military terrorists and infrastructure.
I’m saying that Israel committing genocide on the Palestinian people is not an excuse for others to commit genocide on Israel.
@Tremble This.
I can’t believe we’re having to have this conversation. All genocide is terrible, jfc.
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Say you’re a trash human without saying you’re a trash human
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I like Chinese
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