• AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
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    Market Capitalism has poisoned the very core of humanity, civilization, and literally the COMMUNal environment we all rely on from one breath to the next.

    Good thing the market capitalists are so fucking confident that the solution is… going harder on market capitalism. We’ll just merge, monopolize, and lay off our way into human happiness and equilibrium, won’t we?

    That’s why the owners propagating this system are building luxury bunker compounds in places like New Zealand, because they’re planning to clean up their mess and have confidence in a bright future!

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      Can you link to these NZ bunkers ?

      Also you know that NZ is basically a giant volcano. Lake Taupo, is a scheduled to blow and will wipe out most of the north island.

      It isn’t some magically island paradise that the rich can runaway from the world.

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          Just this year he lost a bid to build a new property which was to be built into a remote hillside alongside Lake Wanaka on New Zealand’s South Island.

          So no. No bunkers. Didn’t get approval and would be a pretty easy to find if someone gets approval for a bunker somewhere.

          Those two articles. Both articles and not much more than speculation.

          One article actually hints at it. However it doesn’t change the facts. NZ is a Yellowstone waiting to happen. Bunker or not the island is toasts.

          Also there’s a reason NZ doesn’t have skyscrapers an d concrete buildings. The amount of earthquakes would make building a bunker pretty dam near impossible.

          Deeper you dig to hide from calamity above you. Closer you get to calamity below you.

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            What’s your definition of a skyscraper? We have a load of buildings over 150m high, 40+ stories.

            We have fancy earthquake tech for our tall buildings, like counterweights.

            We’re the same as Japan, we’re both on the “ring of fire”, basically little scabs of islands where continents rub against each other.

            Japan has loads of tall buildings. And concrete ones too.

            “the island is toasts” lol.

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              We do have plenty tall buildings in Auckland Welly chc and stuff. But not dotted all over the island. Likely because you’d need to drill into volcanic rock. Which is pretty expensive and difficult to do. I assume they place the taller building in places without volcanic rock.

              Can you counterweight a bunker deep under earth ?

              That was my point

              I’m sure Japan and every other nation with super volcanoes had the same issues. Which is the point. NZ isn’t off planet. It has just as much risk as anywhere else. If not more due to Taupo super volcano.

              Which is overdue

              https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20230804-taupo-the-super-volcano-under-new-zealands-largest-lake

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                I think expense & population not feasibility is why we don’t have them dotted all over.

                Surely an underground rock bunker would be exactly what they’re looking for? Very “evil villain” aesthetic.

                I’m dubious of claims of being overdue. How solid is the science backing those claims?

                Well, the upside is if taupo goes, I should get a good view being only a few hours away 😬

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                  Makes sense,

                  Well volcano lair sounds great. Until it blows.

                  Pretty good science. But who knows.

                  I think if it goes. North island goes. It’s a super volcano. Whole of Taupo. So South island might survive but the ash cloud and radiation might do them in

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        They’re also building quite a few in the heartland of the US. Although honestly I think they’re one big scam by the people actually constructing them – fully stocked luxury bunker for you, your family, friends, etc all on some billionaires’ dime. If shit hits the fan and you don’t let them in what’re they gonna do – sue you about it?

        The billionaire doomsday prepper mindset is ridiculous when you think about it for 30 seconds. Physical control over the resources around would be all that mattered, not how much Monopoly money you had in the before times.

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          Not to mention that billionaires are fancy lads and lasses expecting to be waited on hand and foot. When their operations and Security people, people much more generally competent then them in every conceivable real world way, no longer has use for them or their paychecks, they will become their bunkers very, very quickly, especially because wealthy people don’t know how to share and will treat them as staff and not people, let alone friends.

          I can’t imagine them finding security that meets their standards for employment that also lacks opportunism. You don’t agree to protect Bezos from the hoards of Bezos’ victims without being selfish to begin with.