So is the pope speaking for/to God or not? Fucking Religions can’t even be consistent within their own made up framework.
Fucking Religions can’t even be consistent within their own made up framework.
Speak for Christianity, don’t drag us with it.
No, they’re all full of shit
From your wording and the upvote ratio, I conclude this conversation is going nowhere, I hope you find the right path.
Make sure to protect your head when you get off that high horse, it’s quite the fall.
There is no right path, make the best of life you can and if the gods have a problem with that then they didn’t deserve worship to begin with.
Would you go to hell instead of me if I do that? (to rephrase it, would you take responsibility?) (you can’t)
@zephyreks Yeah, right. Claim it for God when I work so hard for it!
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernández, who was appointed last July, came under fire for a book he wrote and published in the late 1990s entitled Mystical Passion: Spirituality and Sensuality.
The Pope had already tackled the vice of gluttony last week and there was no suggestion that his sermon on lust during Wednesday’s general audience was related to criticism of the cardinal.
In December, Cardinal Fernández introduced a text, later approved by Pope Francis, detailing guidelines allowing priests to bless same-sex couples relationships that were still considered sinful.
In a lengthy response posted online, Cardinal Müller said that a priest blessing a homosexual union would be committing a “sacrilegious and blasphemous act”.
Prelates around the world also released statements condemning the decision, including American conservatives, who have long been vocal in opposing the Pope’s plans for reforming the Catholic Church.
Tensions reached a nadir when the Pope evicted outspoken critic US Cardinal Raymond Burke from his Vatican apartment and revoked his salary.
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This seems consistent with what I learned in CCD and Catholic school in the 90s-00s. We were always told that sexual pleasure was increased in a marriage and a sign of god blessing the marriage, whereas sexual pleasure outside of a marriage was cheap and damaging.
I’m old, and I’m still discovering ways a fundamentalist upbringing fucked me up.
Do Catholics wank?
Does the Pope shit in the woods?
I… I don’t know? I don’t think so?
Yeah, nothing special here
That doesn’t mean you can diddle kids you weirdo
Ah yes that’s obviously what he said
That would be doctrinal breaktrough, but the long strings of popes saying whatever they find convenient at the moment tuned the formal requirements for pope to be infallible pretty high. And i won’t even mention that whatever cool thing Francis ever said as a pope have exactly zero influence on church reality.
That would be doctrinal breaktrough
No it wouldn’t. This is a standard way of talking about marriage in oppressive religions, including Catholicism
So by “relationships” he just meant “marriage” as church always did? It’s clear from the context he is not, since lower there is mentions of “same-sex relationships”, not to mention even the word itself suggest any something wider.
I think he’s intentionally vague when using the word relationships. The word does not explicitly mean any one thing. But yeah sex within marriage has always been praised in Christianity. It’s been a big selling point of marriage in general. I don’t see anything in the article to suggest he’s explicitly blessed homosexual sex or truly changed any doctrine.
Stop trying to justify molesting children.
Bro out of all the people of the churches in the world, I really think pope Francis is the last person to bring this point on…
Yeah, a real leader among leaders.
The Catholic Church has protected pedophiles among their ranks for as long as the Catholic Church has been around.
They’ve thrown a few under the bus after overwhelming evidence has been filed against them, but that doesn’t change much.
The Catholic Church has protected pedophiles among their ranks for as long as the Catholic Church has been around.
It is documented and undeniable that there have been such figures in the church, but it is my opinion that this specific pope has been trying to bring the church in a different direction, both on this specific issue, but also generally more progressive, if you want.
Yeah, a real leader among leaders.
Thanks for sharing this article, I’ve read it and tried to do more reaserch on the topic (turns out the wikipedia page on the matter is pretty dense and source-full, while the NYT wrote just has a couple lines written quickly). I will answer with this article from the guardian
Pretty sure sexual pleasure is the result of friction, nerve endings, a bunch of neuro-chemicals, and a whole lot of fetishes. If anyone is letting us enjoy sexual pleasure, it’s the other department.
Friction. 🤮 No. NO.
Hate to break it to you, but friction is literally what causes most of the sensation to be felt. Too much friction seems to be what you’re thinking of
Under half of women orgasm from penetration alone, and for about one in ten it’s outright painful. For me it does pretty much nothing. I guess we could move to whether air and vibrations on clit count as friction, but I’m pretty sure that’s not what anyone had in mind. Nor whether kisses and general intimate closeness count as “sexual pleasure”.
