• Neato@kbin.social
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    8 months ago

    I understand. Some people think fetuses are babies, people, at that point. And they see abortion as murder. And if you think a fetus is a person, then it IS murder. It’s a completely valid position. Not one I think is correct, but it’s easy to see how they get there.

    And if you believe that then you also believe in slavery for the mother. There’s no other precedent for someones literally supporting the life of another that can’t be transferred to another guardian. And if you think a fetus is a person you’d not excuse abortion for anything, even rape. Which then means you’d think raping someone can enslave them bodily.

    Also most of those people have so little regard for actual babies and do so little to protect them that their stance rings hollow. And they also aren’t willing to extend legal benefits as if they were babies. So their actions contradict their stated values and they aren’t taken seriously.

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      8 months ago

      “there is no other precedent for supporting the life of another that can’t be transferred to another”

      Yes, there is. Even a legal precedent, it’s called abandonment, you cannot legally abandon a dependent (especially if it leads to imminent death) without transferring actual custody to another responsible party (e.g not a murderer).

      If you are in a circumstance where you cannot transfer the custody to another party, you cannot leave the dependent to die.

      The rest of your statement is irrelevant garbage, but I think it’s important to refute that point.