Andy Yen says draft safety standards ‘would force online services … to access, collect and read users’ private conversations’
What the hell Australia. This isn’t gonna magically help you prevent the next Emu war.
But it will help them in their corruption and self-enrichment, which is the entire purpose of all attempts to erode civil liberties.
Australia is a country with shit laws as someone who lives in Australia
Life is fine unless you somehow manage to break those stupid laws
For example there was that video of the one guy from Australia who wanted to ban anime, yeah some of our politician’s are that stupid
Thankfully anime isn’t banned completely but hentai is which I find stupid because it’s fictional drawings
Hentai is NOT banned here in Australia. As an Australian I’m sure you knew that and had some reason to lie. The freaks who import DVDs and manga from Japan depicting minors are getting targeted by immigration, but it isn’t a general ban. But who cares about them? If they are looking for something too fucked up to be on the internet it’s probably pedophilia. Also I want you to know that every time I hear someone bring up that hentai is fictional and above criticism I assume they are an actual child molester.
I’m not lying and I had no intent to lie, as my experience living in Australia all I’ve seen is that Australia has banned hentai
Your experience of living in Australia is very likely different to mine as we are not the same person
Im very well aware of the import ban: https://www.abf.gov.au/importing-exporting-and-manufacturing/prohibited-goods/list-of-items
The emu are watching. Waiting. They cannot be stopped.
Or Kangawars. Or Toadwars. Or Kangatoadwars becaue you know those bastards are gonna fuck and make a super beast death machine animal…thing.
I’d watch the wheels off of “Kangatoadwars!”
Closest we got was Tank Girl and…well…it’s Tank Girl. With ninjaroo’s and missile tits.
But yeah you could totally do a Jurassic Park/Planet of the Apes rewrite mashup and someone would watch it at least once.
The spider turtles are coming
It’s worse then you think. As a Australian citizen you are required to comply with any order which includes leaking code and introducing back doors. Failure to comply or notifying your employer about the request will result in federal charges with a sentence between 20 to 60 years in prison. The legislation that contains this was passed almost a year ago.
Recently there’s been a wave of mass disruptions and data theft in Australia including most of our ports halting operations for a day and one of our largest phone and internet service providers being compromised where millions of peoples personal information like driver licences and passports being leaked.
That’s a really fucking stupid law. Do we need to worry about Australia becoming fascist?
You think that’s stupid? How about our leaders:
I don’t want to believe this, my brain is refusing to process that statement, I have stared at that article in a state of disbelief for a minute. Surely someone can’t be that stupid, right?
I have heard plenty of brain dead arguments by anti-encryption people, but this is by far the stupidest. There is no way, there is just no way that he’s so… I want to say brain dead, but that would imply that there is even a brain there for it to be dead.
Regardless of political affiliation, or even the individual’s stance on encryption, surely there can’t be a single person that heard that statement and didn’t laugh at it, right?
Perhaps the Australian stereotype of being upside down holds some truth, considering his… utterance; he must walk on his hands and constantly get bit by snakes and attacked by drop bears on his daily commute, that’s the only explanation for how someone can make such a statement
Oh, it’s no fun. And we have media concentration issues here too, so you won’t get balanced or even a mention of both sides of an issue.
Australia has been the testing ground for implementing Big Brother’s spying technology policies. The ones that are often tried later on in the US or UK.
Nearly all of them have passed with full support from the two major parties here. I wish everyone better luck.
- In Australia, a kilogram of apples weighs two kilograms
- In Australia, gravity is an opinion
- In Australia, if you have three kangaroos and two koalas you have 9 wombats
- In Australia, if you pay $15 for a $20 dollar meal the restaurant owes you $400
- In Australia, right angles are 69 degrees
- In Australia, 1 is more than 2 except when you write it on its side
- In Australia, a minute is 2 seconds long, which is 24 hours out of the 6 hours in a day
- In Australia, the square root of any number is “a dingo’s breakfast”
- In Australia, dividing by two doubles the number, as sharing is caring.
- In Australia, if you travel north you’ll end up south
- In Australia, the shortest distance between two points is the scenic route
- In Australia, a watch moves counter clockwise, to remind you not to live in the past.
- In Australia, counter clockwise always means the following order: 1, 26, 55, 0, 0, 0, 9999, kangaroo, spider, mate
- In Australia, your left hand is always your right, because we don’t like to leave any hand behind.
- In Australia, the speed of light is adjustable depending on how bright the sun is shining.
- In Australia, when you whisper, the sound travels faster than when you shout
Too late. Already is.
That’s a joke right? It has been for a very long time.
How does that even work? When you push code for a back door it’s going to still go through a code review so it’s not exactly going to be secret, right?
Yep and then you get fired but atleast you won’t go to jail
My point is that any dev team worth anything has it set up so that it isn’t possible to merge changes into master unless someone else approves. So it’s more like it isn’t possible in most cases, not “you should do the right thing”.
20year minimum, really? Isnt that also for murder?
The eSafety commissioner, Julie Inman Grant, has proposed cloud and messaging service providers should detect and remove known child abuse material and pro-terror material “where technically feasible” – as well as disrupt and deter new material of that nature.
The eSafety regulator has stressed in an associated discussion paper it “does not advocate building in weaknesses or back doors to undermine privacy and security on end-to-end encrypted services”.
I so love these magic wand-waving legislators. “Spy on your users and control what they do on your encrypted platform, but in a way that doesn’t break encryption or violate privacy…”
The state (i.e. a group of people that claims only they can legally use violence in a given geographic region) is a tool used by the psychopathic hoarder class – it’s purpose is to steal from us (our labor and resources that belong to us all) in relative safety (i.e. protected by state enforcement/police).
Our societal “advancement” can largely be understood in terms of this psychopathic hoarder class become more efficient and effective. Look at amazon.com, is that an advancement over stores or a more efficient way to exploit resources and people and effectively expedite the planet’s destruction?
We need a robust democracy with strong regulation, not a lack of structure in our society.
This. Anarchism is not the way, democratic control is.
Structurelessness only leads to tyranny of another kind. Read Jo Freeman’s thoughts on this concept:
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You can debate anything if you’re stupid enough.
Anarchism means people can protect themselves and their community without a state interfering. This means if you don’t protect yourself you pay consequences. Those that would become tyrannical don’t appear fully formed.
A functional anarchist society needs cultural mechanisms, i.e. tolerance of self defense at all levels, these should be able to prevent psychopaths from growing old. But I’m limited in what I can write here.
Agreed. Essentially the big reason many people support the idea of a government is simply because it is an effective deferral of responsibility for certain issues. The most effective example is unironically the existence of the government “benefit”.
Democracy tends toward corruption as any concentration of power will.
Yeah so we have a robust system of checks and balances, strong regulation and systemic processes to discourage corruption. For example, if you are in your role due to a public election or representing a public body and you are found to have taken bribes you have to serve 20 years in prison and lose all entitlements associated with your office including pensions.
Except it mostly doesn’t work. For every corrupt official going to prison you have 10 getting away with it.
This isn’t a reality, I’m saying the system could work if.
Ah ok. I would’ve agreed with you not too long ago.
I’ve since become convinced that any concentration of power will attract exactly the type that should not wield it and therefore a society that wants to maximize things like freedom and minimize things like needless suffering should strive to build a society where power is not needed. I realize this would take time and could not come from violent revolution, but instead cultural change over a generation or two. In the meantime, democracy, imperfect as it is, with checks and balances can help keep things stable enough for cultural change to occur in this world.
What is power used for except to coerce people to do your bidding instead of their own? I want to clarify that capability for self-defense/community- defense I don’t consider power.
If a corporation won’t ruin a good thing, you leave it to government to get the job done.
The Australian government would have you believe that we’re in the middle of some kind of CP endemic and everyone needs to suffer for it.
This will catch precisely nobody, as the criminals will immediately move to a different platform, of which there are many.
I host my own mail. If the AFP want to inspect it, they’ll need a warrant.
As an Aussie, Australia has cp problem. Most boomers keep getting arrested here for these stuff. Keep you child away from anyone above the age of 60+ as most of these guys getting arrested are around the age and are registered pedo
Edit: going to leave this here for people downvoting. There’s many more cases. Keep your kids away from white 60+ year olds.-
https://news.yahoo.com/australia-worst-pedo-p-hile-194840872.html
as most of these guys getting arrested are around the age and are registered pedo
I think Australia has also another problem: they are registered pedo, so I suppose they are guilty of at least a past offense, why on earth should they be able to be outside a jail ?
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But only those within the family.
Attacks by strangers are rare (10% or so), so leave your child with a stranger wherever possible.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The eSafety regulator has stressed in an associated discussion paper it “does not advocate building in weaknesses or back doors to undermine privacy and security on end-to-end encrypted services”.
But privacy and security groups argue the draft standards, as written, could allow the eSafety commissioner to force companies to compromise encryption to comply.
Andy Yen, the founder and chief executive of Proton, told Guardian Australia the proposed standards “would force online services, no matter whether they are end-to-end encrypted or not, to access, collect, and read their users’ private conversations”.
“These proposals could not only force companies to bypass their own encryption, but could put businesses and citizens at risk while doing little to protect people from the online harms they are intended to address,” he said.
A spokesperson for the eSafety commissioner said Inman Grant welcomed feedback on the draft standards – including on the technical feasibility exception.
“Having mandatory and enforceable codes in place, which put the onus back on industry to take meaningful action against the worst-of-the-worst content appearing on their products and services, is a tremendously important online safety milestone,” Inman Grant said.
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The eSafety regulator has stressed in an associated discussion paper it “does not advocate building in weaknesses or back doors to undermine privacy and security on end-to-end encrypted services”.
Just straight up lying with that one.
Technically maybe, but not necessarily. This is tactic that executives use all the time to force their employees to do illegal, or unethical actions, without ever telling them to.
For example, Wells Fargo executives didn’t tell their bank employees to commit fraud, but they set their sales targets such that the ONLY way to reasonably achieve them was to defraud their customers.
However, I didn’t read the actual white paper, so maybe it does explicitly say backdoors need to be built.
Hey inman grant if you ever see this, fuck you
We know your acting intentionally obtuse
Good. I fully support them. Fuck this shit
Organisations and groups who want to protect privacy should come up with ways themselves on how to protect their services from certain activities.
You mean like implementing strong data privacy measures and fighting regulators to protect them? That sounds like a good idea to me. If you’re interested, that is what the article is about.
No, I mean that they should think of own measurements against illegal media and communication.
You can’t have both privacy and protection from illegal media and communication.
But didn’t proton give up some information to like the Finnish government or something like that a couple years back? Like I mean what they’re doing now is good, but what about that other thing that happened?
They follow Swiss law. The Swiss govt had a legal warrant and they only provided legally required informationafter that.
It’s not anarchic. They still have to abide by the law of their jurisdiction.
They gave up information to the Swiss government after they got a warrant, and due to the way Proton works, they were only able to give them the IP address so they could arrest the person, who was also Swiss. They didn’t compromise security, because they can’t.
They don’t respond to demands from other governments, and the Swiss government haven’t cooperated with other governments either, so far as anyone knows. In the end, there isn’t really anything the Australian government can do to them if they refuse to create a backdoor for them.
