Totally expect to see a sea of “Nazi Sympathizer” comments, but look. I don’t think we should be Doxxing anyone so that we don’t invite folks to Doxx us.
I don’t think this is radical, but apparently this opinion is somehow tantamount to being an actual Nazi in that thread.
I don’t wish to remain in a community that says that Doxxing is bad unless we disagree with the victim - and I think that the post’s continued existence communicates this. Sure, it’s a federated post and not from our community, but honestly, I think it should be removed from Beehaw. I’ve already removed it from my tucson.social instance since I’m in no mood to deal with retaliatory doxxing.
Post link - https://beehaw.org/post/10286519
To be clear, the Moderators have been removing the worst offending comments since the article itself doesn’t actually Dox anyone, but navigating to the source thread on lemmy.ml provides easy access to ALL the doxxed information. As such, I think the whole post should be removed and/or locked.
Update: Post has been removed - I have no further issues. As an aside - good lord Beehaw - I get it I’m a Nazi apparently. I’ll get out of your hair and delete my account later this evening. Sheesh.
I think it’s perfectly valid to feel a personal conviction against doxing as tactic to fight neo nazism, without also conflating someone’s ideas on the subject with “what is okay here” and “getting the popcorn”. It feels kinda weird to me and less like an attempt to raise a concern, and more like something else that may not be entirely in good faith. I think reasonable people can disagree on this one without it being a blanket statement about beehaw, or what you are expected to think or feel comfortable/uncomfortable with as a user. It’s perfectly okay to not like what you read or agree with it. But I’m uncomfortable with your implication that this one screenshot means things it doesn’t actually say, in a broad way about beehaw. Unless I’m missing some information, no one has doxxed anyone here. Please don’t try to start popcorn-getting-level conflicts here. I don’t think anybody wants that.
i will note, rather conspicuously, only about one-third of the actual exchange was posted. here’s the rest–this is all basically public since it’s in the community discord
I wasn’t trying to omit anything on purpose. In fact, I’d argue that the history shows that this was in the context of discussing not wanting to perform any moderation on the content. While you might have felt you were clear that this is a personal view, such context muddies that fact.
Now I know that it is indeed a personal position and not one of beehaws rules.
Fair point - commented more in response to the full image, but suffice it to say that it didn’t really seem that inherently personal. The context was that the response was initially “We don’t usually do that” and the disourse in response was explaining their personal philosophy. When that’s done it’s hard to establish if this is truly a personal opinion or not.
It sounds like the post in question was not on beehaw, and it was later removed. I can understand feeling strongly about that, but no one was actually doxxed on beehaw and regardless of anyone’s opinions on whether or not it’s ok to dox neo nazis, it was made clear that doxxing would still be against beehaw’s rules. It sounds like the moderators were following their policy of not messing with non-beehaw posts, but then did actually go ahead and remove it. So their own philosophy about it didn’t impede moderation decisions. No one said that it was ok to “dox people we don’t like here”, they said that while they personally believed that doxxing people who specifically engage in the violent ideology of neonazism was ok, the post in question was outside beehaw’s usual moderation scope. Later it was clarified that doxxing is against beehaw’s rules, and the federated post was removed anyway. I do think all that nuance is really important, and I do think that, intentionally or not, your post initially made the situation sound like something pretty different than what was actually said or what happened.