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  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    2000 years!

    They hadn’t ever been in Israel, they were born and raised in Europe by parents that were born and raised in Europe by grandparents that were born and raise in Europe etc. etc. They were Europeans, complete with white skin and European culture and European language.

    This wasn’t refugees returning to their home. It was settlers invading nonwhite people’s land and stealing it for themselves.

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      A third of Israelis are (family of) refugees/emigrants from the middle-east or north Africa.

      It’s not a ‘white european’ country, which you’d know just looking at them.

      Imposing simplistic American notions of race on a complicated conflict is stupid and embarrassing.

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        Yeah, now. That’s because they imported Jews from everywhere they could to become Israeli. It started as a European settler project.

        But if you look at the positions of power, the government and businesses and celebrities, you’ll see mostly white faces. Israel definitely has a white supremacist bent to it - you don’t think an Ethiopian Jew will ever be the prime minister do you?

        America’s white majority is going to disappear too, but you don’t think that will actually end American white supremacy right?

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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            If they were given their own settler colony and started being treated as an equal by all the other white countries? Yes.

            I wouldn’t consider a European Jew before the formation of Israel to be white, but they’re sure as fuck white now.

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              If someone of white European heritage burns down a synagogue frequented by what you consider people of white European heritage, would you still consider that racist given they’re the same race? Or would you consider that less racist than someone burning down a church frequented by black people?

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                It is almost like Jewish people have a conditional relationship with whiteness. The idf soldiers bombing children’s hospitals certainly are capital W White.

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      Yeah, if we stretch this logic even further down, we all get to claim our ancestral land in Africa from 200 millennia ago.