• Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    The stuff that went on in the 1990s was fucked up

    Not in the 90s, it’s happening RIGHT NOW.

    Also what’s with the obsession with mentioning r-word in every reply? It gives off the vibe that you’re glad these things are happening so you have something bad to say about Russia, it’s pretty sick. You instantly jumped to that when I mentioned how absurd the “Russian nukes don’t work anymore” conspiracy theory is.

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      I understand that you’re not comfortable with the practices of the Russian military. Would you prefer that I not talk about them?

      People in my country did fucked-up shit too. I was born in a territory that was founded as a white-separatist colony. I’m okay with discussing the injustices in that history.

      Oh, also, for me, it’s not “the R word”. It’s just “rape”. I’m okay with saying that white men in my country used to get away with raping black women. That was bad. Are you okay with saying that the Russian army today is bad when it rapes Russian men?

      • Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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        I understand that you’re not comfortable with the practices of the Russian military. Would you prefer that I not talk about them?

        It’s not about discomfort, it’s more that instantly jumping to talk about SA when someone confronts your “Russian nukes don’t work anymore” conspiracy theory just reeks of insecurity, it’s like you know that there’s nothing to back the position but you still need to screech RUSSIA BAD 24/7, even if it involves making jokes about SA victims.

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          Hmm, I think any screeching you’re hearing is purely in your own imagination.

          Looking back over the thread, I initially mentioned the Putin army’s habit of raping its own recruits as an example of the Putin regime being a horribly failed state and thus probably an incapable maintainer of nuclear weapons. You responded with what looked like a rhetorical distraction, so I insisted that my example was actually relevant. You’d prefer not to discuss the details, maybe because they involve SA of men, but that’s okay, we can gloss over that.

          Even then, my point still stands: Do you really think you should stand up for Putinism and the way that it actually treats the Russian people?

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            In total fairness, they could have abuses of power up to and including SA of many kinds, and it doesn’t necessarily make them bad at maintenance.

            The shit tier job they did on the rest of their materiel, and that leading to the deaths of a bunch of their soldiers, on the other hand, is pretty strong evidence. Are the nukes maintained by maximal Russian patriots?

            The myth of the super capable Russian army also protected Russian interests, and look how that’s going.