Veilid is a peer-to-peer network and application framework released by the Cult of the Dead Cow on August 11, 2023, at DEF CON 31. Seems more promising than I2P.
And they use discord for comms.
Pretty sure they are using discord because most people are familiar with it and it is easier to contribute to the project.
Yeah, there are alternatives. Matrix, Zulip for chatting and the entire fediverse for forums and micro-blogging. But they chose big-tech corp #321 and big-tech corp #123 👍
At least they’re on Gitlab. I’ll give them that.
Gitlab is also a big corp
Gitlab = Big Tech? Dude, you have got to be kidding me.
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So then do you define a company with 400 million annually and over 2K employees as Medium Tech? Because that ain’t no mom-and-pop tech shop seeking to undermine the status quo, that’s got to be in the top 10 companies in that space. Obviously MS and Atlassian are bigger, but gitlab is like number 2 for git!
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I don’t know what Gitlab is, but if you look at the “smaller big tech companies” list, Adobe is the smallest on there with 17 billion in revenue as of 2022, which is ~34x that of Gitlab today. It’s probably on the larger end of medium sized companies, but that’s very fluid.
I didn’t say ‘big tech’ I said ‘big corp’
Regardless, ‘big tech’ isn’t really a thing its just a buzzword used by the media to describe parasitic capitalism that uses computers
Also gitlab can afford billboards along the 101 in the middle of SanFrancisco so yeah they suck
Thats like voting for the lesser evil but still donating to their reelection
Yeah I can’t stand that whole cDc hackers.town thing they have going. Their mastodon is really very boring
I don’t understand why they would rebuild TOR and IPFS. Why not build this into I2P or something?
@veilidnetwork@hackers.town I just watched the presentation on veilid and my question still stands: why rebuild TOR and IPFS?
Also, as someone pointed out in the comments on the video as well as here, you say
Stop being dependent on corporate systems
yet you’re on discord and twitter. Why aren’t you eschewing those services? Discord can be replaced by matrix, signal (which also has groups), zulip, maybe even rocket chat! Gitlab is fine, but you could also be using radicle (granted, 2 years ago they weren’t anywhere close to their current functionality).
Relevant XKCD https://xkcd.com/927/
Yep, that’s exactly what’s happening here. And it just keeps happening. What’s weird is they explicitly mention TOR and IPFS, then go on to just re-implement it. There’s no mention of why.
Comparison between different protocol implementations.
discord and google docs. say no more
Yeah, they can build on top of I2P. There’s no need to rewrite all that stuff. They could’ve written something that glues everything together and reuse the existing nodes instead of creating yet another network.
Also, I2P has implementations in Java (main implementation) and C++ (i2pd). A rust implementation would be great news.
I really hope… in the future, all people in dbzer0 used i2p as their secondary-main network. newbie this year… and I already amaze with how easy, simple, versatile, and its usefulness in everything… just mind blowin thing I ever found on the internet, personally…
If we are talking about the most promising stuff, I will mention gnunet is basically replacing the entire internet using all the existing hardware. I think that is the end goal, but short term yeah, i2p and others are a great next step.
