• filoria@lemmy.mlOP
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    5 months ago

    All the complaints about supposed violations of international law that the US has made in the past really ring hollow now that Johnson has said the quiet part out loud: international bodies are designed to control the “impoverished, barbaric” Global East and South, not the “enlightened” Global West.

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        I’m as eager to point out the flaws in my country as anybody, but if you think any of the five eyes remotely care, or any “major” western power for that matter, I have some unfortunate news for you.

        Every country has things where they simply do not care what other countries or groups think, say, threaten, etc. They just act with impunity, claim it’s the exception if they even acknowledge the dissonance, and move on.

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          “rules based international order” we shill relied on appearances of propriety, the more the US acts in this fashion the quicker the system is getting eroded.

          Current “leadershIp” is willing to lose a lot face here for a foreign state, which is rather perplexing from national security and sovereignty perspective. What is the US winning here? And if we are not getting anything in return, then why are we supporting Israel’s war crimes at our expense?

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            Israel serves many purposes for the US.

            Its our casus belli on a stick against Iran.

            Its our nuke in a black box against Russia and China

            Its our staging ground for when this whole climate change dealio gets sorted out and we need somewhere new to drill.

            It’s a bunch of white enough people we can defend against any new terror organization that miraculously appears where we wanted to invade.

            Its our theocratic imperative to kick off Armageddon.

            It’s a place we can subtly suggest all our domestic Jews move to.

            It funds the most regressive and hawkish politicians in our government.

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              pretty comprehensive answer. definitely a strong nominee for the go-to comment every time this question pops up.

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              It’s our laboratory for new mass surveillance and border control technology.

              It’s our training ground for LEOs, FBI, ICE, ect. who literally go to Israel to learn urban warfare tactics.

              It’s our unsinkable aircraft carrier in the most oil rich region in the world.

              It’s our shield of plausible deniability when we want to act against our enemies without drawing backlash at home or abroad.

              Israel really is the gift that keeps on giving!

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        Well they did set a precedent when they walked into Iraq against the international bodies wishes.

        All the big players learned that if the US won’t play ball, they won’t either.

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        5 months ago

        Everyone thinks they’re above international bodies, but most don’t pretend that they don’t think so.

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    5 months ago

    Pissing off the International Community is how we Strengthen Our Defenses AGAINST Terror Attacks!

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    5 months ago

    Sovereignty has been one of the biggest bullshit propaganda tells in recent times. 99% of the time, anyone who uses it is bullshitting you and probably doesn’t know what it even means.

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    I mean, other than Exxon, Shell or BP.

    And the Knesset.

    And Putin.

    But other than that!

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    That’s why international relations and treaties are hard, since anyone can just decide they don’t want to honor them any more. You need to make it enticing for all parties to stay committed somehow.