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$3499
Remember when the Oculus first came out, and people said in a few years that VR would get cheaper? Those people didn’t anticipate Apple.
Has VR got substantially better since the first Oculus? I’m asking genuinely, as I’ve never used any VR headset.
From what I saw last night, this thing pushes the boundaries of what VR is in a way that no Oculus has really done since its launch. That in itself has a value to it, in spurring on other manufacturers to make their offerings even better.
@DJDarren @Lobstronomosity Oculus has proven that hardware is one thing, but apps is another. And developing and prototyping VR apps is hard, long and expensive. Market is too small for many devs to get super interested in.
I guess this is why I’m cautiously optimistic about Vision Pro. Essentially, it looks like an iPad Pro but the screen is in a headset. The end result is that current iPad apps could well work right out of the box, meaning devs don’t need to be convinced to get on board.
For just an additional $699 (849 CAD), you can get a set of four wheels to move your headset around with you! /s
And if i get the $999 stand i have something to hang it on.
Not comfortable with the iris scanner, no matter how many assurances they make that it’s secure.
So many companies are proving that their “promises” mean nothing lately…
Of course it will be “secure”. Don’t worry, apple will make damn sure no one can access the camera to watch you.
The data they generate from watching you themselves they fully intend to sell, so they’ll make sure that isn’t open as well.
Just seeing where you look so they can inject ads into the content you watch while you’re not looking, report back where you pay attention to serve more ads, and of course there’s the realistic as-us avatar’s made by scanning our faces that hackers can now spoof for fun.
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Ipad already has a patent to do exactly this, btw. Eye tracking for ad revenue.
The data they generate from watching you themselves they fully intend to sell
A healthy dose of skepticism is always warranted, but I wouldn’t state this as fact when we don’t even have evidence of Apple presently doing these kinds of things (i.e. selling the other biometric data their devices collect). They aren’t an ad company like Facebook or Google, and it’s against their own privacy policy. If Apple were caught doing this, it would be a huge scandal, not business as usual.
I’m super excited about this space and what it will mean for computing paradigms going forward. I know there is a lot of saltiness at the price, but it’s not a shocker. I’m a tech early adopter and will likely want to jump on this when it comes out next year, more so out of curiosity than anything else.
The digital avatar they previewed in the keynote gave me slightly uncanny vibes but I imagine it will improve with time/before release.
How is the price not a shocker? Like we all expect an Apple Tax but this literally 2x the cost of the highest priced headsets released so far.
For Mixed Reality devices, it is the same magnitude as Hololens 2 or Magic Leap 2, the biggest difference being Passthrough AR vs. Optical AR. A more comparable device is the Quest Pro, but the AR experience is probably much higher resolution and with binocular color cameras and depth sensors it hopefully doesn’t have distortion.
Yes, it is a lot for a VR device, but for a standalone MR device it is comparable with higher fidelity, so it isn’t significantly more expensive than other devices in the same category… arguably it is the best value for the category if the cameras and screens have a wide FOV with high resolution and can accurately reproduce the HDR of an environment.
I’m most excited about the “barely worth mentioning” updates to Safari, Maps, Airpods, and autocorrect lol.
Folks on Mastodon were bashing the “Web Apps” conversation but… I would really prefer to install less glorified-site-wrappers on my stuff, thanks. Like they basically knocked out 2 of the 3 reasons I opted for Edge over Safari:
- Install sites like Slack, Discord, YoutubeMusic as apps rather than using an electron wrapper
- Work vs Personal profiles w/ history and extensions
- Optimized memory usage & Automatic tab “sleeping”
As for Maps: I like Siri’s voice, and the “turn left but stay in the second from left lane to do it” has saved me from road rage a number of times. It’s nicely integrated to Contacts, so I just say “Navigate to Mom/Sister/SO” early in the drive. But I don’t use it because of the absurd amount of data usage the app uses (I’m on a limited prepaid plan). So this is basically all I’ve been waiting for to drop my GMaps usage down to just “what’s good around here?” type usage.
Airpods’ adaptive usage seems perfect for the way I think airpods are best used — while walking around. If I’m camping out at a cafe or something, I pull out the full sized headphones. But if I’m walking or running, I bring out the airpods. Usually in transparency mode, toggling it off if things get too loud to hear. Looking forward to trying the new feature.
And autocorrect has been getting worse — significantly so. Whatever it is they do, I hope it works :)
I have a child whose name sounds close enough to “Siri” that my wife and I both have accidentally activated Siri many, many times. Removing the need for “Hey” first will make this only worse. 😅
That said, I’m with you. Most of the more “minor” updates are the ones I’m most excited about!
