• themusicman@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    “If you’re on the fence about the sequel, though, I’ve gotta say that it’s really the performance updates you’re going to want to watch for, because woof does this game run badly.”

    Yikes

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      1 year ago

      Yeah. Take a look at their review. The guy was running a 3080 and had to turn all settings down to minimum just to get a stable 30fps.

      Fucking ouch.

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        1 year ago

        CS1 was notoriously known to be tied to single core CPU performance
        I hope at least that got better, this really hit laptop gamer even if they had beefy GPUs in the laptop

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        1 year ago

        Not like this seems to be status quo in game dev for >1 guy game studios right now (sadly).

        Just don’t buy/pre order or refund after testing and we are all join the patient gamer community.
        Haven’t bought a modern current-year release since >2 years.

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    1 year ago

    Well yeah…gotta sell the DLCs same happens with other games like the Sims.

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      1 year ago

      Or, and hear me out, re-writing and re-working all the features built over a decade to work in this new game would take so much time and effort that CS2 would either never launch, or not be worth CO’s expense if the game sold at a standard price?

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        1 year ago

        Sure, I might have made it sound worse that I intended. I mean… I am not implying is a copy paste thing it requires work specially if the game had important changes, some of which might not be visible to the user.

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        As one of my favorite baduk streamers puts it, “the mistake was earlier”.

        Using dozens of DLCs to get B2B-grade revenue out of a game sounds like a great business strategy, but as Paradox is EOLing all those games that people have spent hundreds on, I think there is this reaction of “why should I prepare to spend hundreds again?”

        I genuinely believe this is a “short term revenue” thing, and will ultimately cost them against a subscription-from-day-1 model. I mean, I doubt I’m the only person who can’t bring themselves to even LOOK at Crusader Kings 3. I never touched Sims 4 until it was free. And if EU5 comes out? I’ll act the same. Paradox already has more of my money than Blizzard, so more power to them, but how many people like me aren’t going to consider buying sequels? It’s not about the money, it’s about the investment of money. If I were in $500 from subscription fees, I’d feel less harmed than $300 in DLCs for a now-out-of-print game. We humans are a complicated psychology

        For me, I’ll try em when they’re free or when they go full patient-gamer. Which is a shame because Paradox makes excellent games. They just keep making people like me want to wait to pull the trigger.

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      1 year ago

      Exactly. How are they going to sell you new DLC over a decade if you don’t purchase a new game without it?

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    The game is reported to be fun and it comes with a whole bunch of CS1’s most popular utility more built in. I think I can forgive it for not having content parity with every DLC ever released for the first one at launch.

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      1 year ago

      it finally comes with mix zones so the game is actually playable unlike cs 1,who cares about the rest.

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    Well obviously. It’s a new game and adapting the DLC would be costly. Is CS going to face this ridiculous critique that people apply to The Sims all the time too?

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    Yeah we knew this already. It wouldn’t even make sense in any case since a lot of the core mechanics are different now.

    Like all the industry DLC stuff wouldn’t make sense with the new economy system. And all of the content creator packs wouldn’t make sense with the different art style and zoning systems.

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    Disclaimer: I didn’t play it. Only CS1

    Opinion: Well some mods and features probably got included in base game so it wouldn’t make sense to just redo them if they are already there as QoL features.
    And the whole specific-house-as-a-feature thing is done by Sims since all eternetiy.

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    Only dumbasses and entitled people would expect a brand new game to have total feature and asset parity to a game that had 10 years of updates, DLC and freaking mods.

    I honestly feel confident CS2 will become a much more complete and better city builder than CS1. And from everything I’ve seen (haven’t played it yet), it’s already better in many ways. Like MIXED ZONING. That’s so major I barely care for anything else tbh.

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      EDIT: Softened my statements because I didn’t like them on reread.

      This COULD become the Sims equation problem all over again. I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt until I’ve tried it.

      The Sims 3 with all expansions is simply a much better game overall than Sims 4 base game. And since there’s no “sequel story”, you basically just have a “lower quality rerelease”

      I can’t find accurate purchase/play figures, but Sims 4 pivoting to F2P last year supports my thoughts on that. In terms of quality, a HD graphics DLC would have been a better value and made them more money.

      Except not, because having fewer players give them more money seems to be the new model. More power to em. I really wish “Life By You” wasn’t the only Sims alternative coming out. Paradox is definitely much better than EA, but they’re not perfect either.